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Sources: Butler will be Moreys main target this summer, and he feels fairly confident it will happen

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by cyberx, Feb 25, 2019.

  1. roslolian

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    Yeah, no. What exactly can Green and Tucker do to Jimmy B to "keep him in line"? You think somebody like Butler is gonna get the towels and hand water to Tucker or else Green will take all his lunch money or something? Jimmy B is the kind if guy that doesn't back down to anyone, if he can stand up to Embiid then he certainly can stand up to Tucker and Green who are both smaller than him.

    If Butler was really competitive then he would focus on winning instead of stirring **** up both on the Wolves and esp. the Sixers. I don't get the whole "Butler is older than them" argument literally makes no sense. You realize there are players both younger and older than Jimmy B on the sixers right? If he doesn't listen to Simmons because Butler is older than him why doesn't he listen to JJ Reddick or even the coach who is WAY older than him? Makes zero sense considering Jimmy B's combative personality he would back down just because somebody is older wtf.


    Rox now have a good thing going on with the current lineup, I hope the priority is keeping these guys instead of blowing everything up again hoping for anither buyout miracle to save the team.
     
  2. Entropy

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    He's going to LA since none of the top-tier guys want to go to hold Lebron's hand in his senile years.
     
  3. rocks123

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    butler is one of those really good all star player i really dont like. but im not the pro here. there must be a reason why morey is so high on him. Wont be sad if we dont get him though.
     
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  4. bmelo

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    Melo... MCW... Ennis...
     
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  5. hongxingli

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    How high is Murray on them, minimum wage for all
     
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  6. bmelo

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    Yeah but he tried to get Melo for years
     
  7. YOLO

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    so high that mcw was the first fa at midnight. better grab him before someone else does :eek:
     
  8. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
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    Thing about Butler is that he can't stand players that don't give it their all and respects those who do work hard and leave everything on the court. We don't have anyone like that on the Rockets.

    - CP3: Consistently one of the hardest workers throughout his career, gives it his all, ultra competitive
    - Harden: CP3 said the biggest thing that surprised him about Harden was how much he loved to play ball and that Harden was a gym rat. He is close friends with JB and by all player accounts, ultra competitive.
    - Tucker: Has always been a hard worker since his days at UT
    - Capela: Harden has stated Capela is a super hard worker and listens to feedback from his teammates, a big reason why he has improved each season.
    - Ego: You don't come back from the injuries he has without being a hard worker, enough said
    - Faried: Known for being a high energy, hustle player
    - Rivers: Plays with a chip on his shoulder that is arguably as big as JB, just has a lot less talent
    - Hart: One thing you can always say about Hart is that the kid plays hard. Not always smart, but definitely hard.
     
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  9. Reeko

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    Goat Troll? Settle down man.

    I will say this tho, if anyone actually spends time F5’ing this summer for a Jimmy Butler opt-in & trade to Houston then u only have yourself to blame if u get disappointed. I guess this is more realistic than an AD to HOU trade at least, so there’s that.
     
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  10. YOLO

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    so whats the basis that the philly team he is on dont give it their all? by many accounts they do.
     
  11. bloodwings19

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    Just win and win. If we don't win this year, we should get lettuce. And if we win this year, we don't have to get lettuce, but it may entice Jimmeh to come home. As long as Butler doesn't sign a contract with the 76ers, we have a chance. Every year is a win for the Rockets.
     
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  12. s3ts

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    Why does Philly do this trade, because JB wants out?

    Has there been a lot of problems brewing between JB and the Philly roster?
     
  13. topfive

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    Let's not get confused here.

    40-hour workweek @ minimum wage = $290

    40-hour workweek @ MCW's salary = $50,000+
     
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  14. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    You are correct. There are a lot of hurdles to cross. No small task in the slightest. But there is a roadmap to in being done in terms of mechanics.

    That said, why the "confidence level" considering those hurdles? Is there an Ace up a #Sleeve we don't know about that would empower this confidence?

    That is what I am wondering about. Sure Morey has "interest" in Butler. He has interest in "Team USA" players.

    But the confidence? What does he know?

    I wonder if @cyberx will come back to see if he has any idea about the "why's" of the confidence?

     
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  15. yixiixiy

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    Friendly reminder that the same GM said "we would have FA to our choosing".

    Fair confidence level should be taken with a grain of salt.
     
  16. Deuce

    Deuce Context & Nuance

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    Here is something else to consider.

    Often times, the trade talks at the trade deadline are the embers to deals in the summer.

    We know that Morey talked with Philly at the trade deadline because James Ennis was traded there.

    Perhaps, Morey began a dialogue with Philly GM, Elton Brand, regarding Jimmy Butler. That *IF* things did not work out with Jimmy, would Elton consider a trade? And if Elton said he would at least consider it, perhaps that gives Morey confidence. And if Morey knows through back channels that Butler would be open to coming to Houston that gives more more confidence.

    Just wanted to throw that out there as for "reasons" that Morey might have some confidence.
     
  17. Nook

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    I don’t doubt cyberex. However from what I know it is really unlikely and an absolutely best case scenario. I asked someone associated with the Bulls and the response was “Jimmy? Good luck betting on that!”
     
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  18. ROXonROXonROX

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    The stupidity is real on this site.
    You literally sat there and wrote a whole 2 paragraphs on someone being bigger than the other, older, and fighting as your reasoning for why PJ and Green can’t check Jimmy Butler.... Man if you don’t get from around me with that dumbass argument.
    When I said Green and PJ would check Jimmy I don’t mean fight the guy, it’s simply about a player like Jimmy having more respect for proven stars and respected players in the league such as PJ.
    As great as Embiid and Simmons are neither one is proven and you can say the same about the coach who’s made questionable decisions himself.
     
  19. Furious Jam

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    It does make sense. Why else would Morey offer four firsts for someone who was just going to opt out and leave? It would also explain Gordon's supposed early season unhappiness if he knew the fix was in.
     
  20. amaru

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    Melo in his prime was a hell of an offensive player
     
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