Is it me or does Hoyer have like zero pocket presence? Most qbs can move up in the pocket or to the side a bit to get a throwing lane. This guy just stands there or if he does move, he moves directly to where the most danger is.
The game seems too fast for him - he can't handle the blitz - expect a blitz on virtually every play.
Yeah, it's pretty disappointing but all we can do is hope for the best. Either Hoyer pulls off a miracle and is good enough to win or BOB acts faster and pulls him with enough time left for Mallett to finish the comeback.
Off topic but can anybody post the available tight end free agents we could possibly be bringing in for tryouts thanks.
Here is my take on the Chiefs game and Hoyer… Turnovers can happen at any position on the field…could be inside the 20 just as often as it could be at midfield. So, it's not unlucky that Hoyer turned the ball over twice, but it was unlucky where they happened. Both of those directly resulted in 14 points for the Chiefs. Anywhere else on the field, and the result wouldn't have been so tough to swallow. And you look at the two PI calls that the refs missed, and this is a totally different ball game. We could have and should have won, despite Hoyer's suckage. The offense needs to come out a little bit more aggressive. On that Hoyer TD drive, the tempo was high and the play calling was aggressive. This is EXACTLY what we saw last year with Fitz…any time the offense was making aggressive play calls, Fitz benefited greatly. I don't have very much confidence in Hoyer, but I do think that the rest of the team is talented enough to take the W against the Panthers.
If Bill O'Brien sticks with Hoyer it'll be clear that he cares more about trying to give his pet project as many opportunities to be a success as possible than he does about winning games.
Totally disagree with this...Bill is all about winning...I have to ask; what happens if Mallett does the exact same thing or worse vs the Panthers?? This is NO easy decision...All of Houston wants him to start Mallett...I just want BOB to have a better/simple game plan and minimize having the QBs to produce much offense regardless of who is under center. But truth be told, its really time we give Mallett a real shot...
If he was all about winning, this really would be an easy decision. Mallett looked infinitely better than Hoyer when it mattered so you are either going on blind faith that eventually Hoyer will magically become a competent QB despite all of the evidence to the contrary, or you go with the guy that gave your team a chance to come back. Now if Mallett blows it, fine go back to Hoyer and hope for the best. You can then say you did everything possible to put the team in the best position to win. You can't say that if you stick with the guy that was so awful he had to be removed....and being awful is right in line with everything he's ever done in his career.
Agree - we know what Hoyer is, so lets give Mallett a chance to grow and settle in on this team. He does not need to be a top 5 QB - top 15 would be enough.
NO I would never want the head coach to go back...If you commit to the decision that Mallett gives the team a better shot, you should never go back regardless of his level of success. Baring injury...they should stick with Mallett if that is the case. This is why this decision is a tough one. If he makes the move to Mallett, it diminishes everything he was preaching during training camp in regards to these QBs. And then if in the following week he flip flops with these guys again, it would undermine his coaching tenure and destroys any team chemistry. My guess, is that BOB gives Hoyer a max of 2 more chances with a very tight leash...
I'd be fine with just sticking with Mallett no matter what, I mean, we've already seen that Hoyer is trash (any of us that have seen him play QB ever at any level of the game) so it's not like he'd be any better. If Mallett totally blows it, you have a high draft pick and you can make that segment of the fanbase that will only be happy with a high draft pick QB have their way. I always assumed that Hoyer was only here for injury insurance. The fact that the coach didn't see it that way makes me question his judgement (even more so when I see how Hoyer played)
Some players have earned the right to have really bad games and not be in danger of losing their starting job. Remember when Brady was benched for Jimmy G last year against the Chiefs? He got picked off twice with a QBR of 22. Difference is that he is Tom Brady. He has had more all-pro games than mediocre games. One bad game doesn't put his job in jeopardy. Hoyer, on the other hand hasn't earned that. The bad game is looked at as the norm and not an outlier. There is an argument that this is who he is and we should expect this kind of play every few games. That's the frustrating part. We still don't know who Mallet is but we know who Hoyer is.
