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Sources: Brian Hoyer named starting QB

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by J.R., Aug 24, 2015.

  1. roxallways

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    This pretty much sums it up. I was disappointed with the announcement of Hoyer being the starter but when you think about it, if Mallet couldn't step up and do what it took to separate himself from Hoyer some kind of way then he didn't deserve to have anything handed to him. I'm becoming more upset with the organization for failure to possibly get some of the other QBs they had a chance at getting last year. This mediocre madness is wasting time. I'll watch the team to see what they do but I'm not that emotionally invested in the Texans much these days.
     
  2. Texanasiafan

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    http://www.houstontexans.com/team/depth-chart.html

    Yeah, he may not be cut, but he is probably going to fight for a practice squad spot with the likes of Travis Labhart.

    While undrafted FA Chandler Worthy has a much better chance to make the team than him.

    And he is a 3rd round pick, not only that, the Texans actually traded up to draft him.

    Nuff said.

    It's not true that some of us really like to look for bad news, its a fact that history just keep repeating itself here.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    This unpopular and highly questionable move officially ends the honeymoon with BOB and if it turns out badly, his seat will start to get hot. He'll be back next year no matter what, but if he totally blows it with this Hoyer BS, he might not have many years left to make up for it.
     
  4. vstexas09

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    He's starting to strike me as a guy that is stubborn. If something doesn't go his way, I feel like he doesn't adjust immediately, but rather will keep trying to do it until he gets his way.

    The 7 chances to score at the goal line screams out at me.

    I also think it's a huge blunder we didn't get after Garoppolo.
     
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  5. Nick

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    Ultimately, he could be the one that got away... BOB personally scouted him, met with him, basically did everything to let him know there was interest (which the Patriots smartly picked up on).

    XSF showing nothing thus far is making it look much worse as the whole premise of not "reaching" for Garoppolo with an earlier pick was that you were shoring up other needs (of which LG was one).
     
  6. Bobbythegreat

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    What I want to know is why did Hoyer come in as the incumbent and favorite over the guy that was here last year?

    I think it's pretty stubborn of BOB to try and force the issue with Hoyer. Schaub got Kubiak fired, Hoyer might be the guy to get BOB fired despite the fact that the hasn't been here long.

    Honestly I feel bad for Mallett, he really should have taken the money to head to the Jets, he'd be starting right now if he did. He trusted BOB and it backfired.
     
  7. Nick

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    If Hoyer blows it, Mallett will be in... is he then still on the hot seat regardless of whether or not Mallett does better?
     
  8. Nick

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    Hilarious that within one post you contradict yourself multiple times.

    Mallet should have been "gifted" the job out of loyalty despite not showing enough in OTA's, meetings, practice and the games... which would be exactly equivalent to Kubiak sticking with Schaub out of loyalty.

    If this inspires him to be better than he has been, BOB is even more of a genius.
     
  9. Bobbythegreat

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    No, if Mallett does worse than Hoyer then he's good to go, it'll show he made the right decision. When Hoyer blows it, if either of the other two QB's perform better then you have to question BOB's competence and that's not something that is easy to come back from.
     
  10. Two Sandwiches

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    He's not going to be cut. His natural talent far outweighs everyone not named Hopkins.
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    It's okay, I understand how someone like you would struggle to follow along. I'm not in the mood to spell it out for you Barney style this time around so you'll just have to remain confused.
     
  12. Nick

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    But isn't that exactly what he did last year with Fitz/Mallett? One was underperforming, so the other comes in and seemingly does "better" until he hurts himself?

    He's preparing both of them as much as he can... but you're the only one in here with this pre-concieved notion that Mallett is head and shoulders better than Hoyer right now. He simply didn't win the job... whether its because he thought it was gifted to him (and thus wasn't really going all-out for it), or whether its simply because he's not that good... remains to be seen.
     
  13. Nick

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    Wow, only one post questioning your logic with valid questions... and you're already quick with the personal insults. Most definitely not confused about anything... just pointing out another classic fallacy post.

    For somebody that clamors for this board to be better... you really should look at yourself in the mirror.
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    The difference was that Fitz was here all pre-season long and Mallett came in late, it was understandable starting Fitz over Mallett, especially given the results.

    When it comes to Hoyer, he came in and was treated as the favorite from day one....which is incredibly odd. If you look at their performances in the pre-season, it's really hard to make a case for Hoyer over Mallett...which would imply that BOB was always leaning towards giving him the job unless Mallett completely blew him out of the water.

    I'm tired of babying bad posters either people like you are going to figure things out or you aren't. I only spell things out for people so many times before I give up.
     
  15. Nick

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    And yet you ignore time and time again that BOB puts very little weight on pre-season games... of which Mallett didn't really blow anybody away anyways (and had some awful miscues you conveniently ignore... him running a QB sneak blindly without considering the defense... the goal-line fiasco... the near pick 6 in the last game).

    You refuse to admit that there was a lot more to the evaluation process than just pre-season... again, you're the only one here that doesn't see that (and this is less than a year where you refused to acknowledge that Mallett may be more than what he has been leading up to him arriving in Houston).

    And if Mallett is unable to outright blow away Hoyer... either he's not as good as you think he is, or Hoyer is better than you think he is.... either way, you continue to be wrong and require posts like this to spell it out for you.

    That's good advice... again, you may need to start listening to yourself, and I'll stop explaining/questioning/pointing out your contradictory posts again and again.
     
  16. Mr. Clutch

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    Nice narrative.

    Too bad it has nothing to do with reality.

    Hoyer beat him, plain and simple.

    Serious question though, why don't you ever use stats in your analysis? Did you ever learn math?
     
  17. Buck Turgidson

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  18. Bobbythegreat

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    Fine, maybe he thinks Hoyer looked awesome in OTA's or whatever, but that's another questionable thing about BOB if true. How you look in practice doesn't matter as much as how you look in games and in games, Hoyer doesn't look very good. He doesn't have a quick enough trigger to get the ball out before he gets hit and he doesn't have the arm to stretch defenses.

    Let's not forget that we're going with a Cleveland Browns QB that threw 8 picks and only 1 TD in his last 4 starts.....yeah that's pretty much a big wet blanket.

    Given that's what we're going with, there's not really any reason for enthusiasm about the Texans season.
     
  19. Buck Turgidson

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    Dude, your meltdown has gotten pretty pathetic. Might want to step away for a bit.
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    Give an argument to the contrary if you disagree.
     

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