Yes except Hoyer is 30 years old and has never been good. I do not doubt that Hoyer can improve under BOB, but what does that mean? That his 19/19 career TD to INT ratio improves next year to 14/12? You can only dress up ground beef so much.
How many years had Fitz been in the league (and the main point -- how many starts?) before BOB got his hands on him? We'll be fine.
Typical boring decision by the Texans and their owner. I am never watching a Texans game ever again until we finally decide to trade a couple of draft picks for Andrew Luck. Have fun going 0-16 this year, Texans!!!!!!!!!111
Rick Smith has about as much power in influencing roster decisions as the Patriots GM (who doesn't exist). His job is literally to go get the guys BOB wants, and find a way to keep the guys BOB wants to keep. I also don't think he's losing sleep over not drafting Manziel, Bridgewater or Carr in the first round... maybe he was screwed over by New England with the Garropolo pick, but its not like he's a sure thing either.
Fitz had a pretty bad TD/INT ratio... and was much much better in a system that was completely new to him. You hope that with some familiarity, you get at least what Fitz brought to the table last year (and BOB presumes he'll get even more).
Mallet is 27, not really a young upside guy. People bizarrely overrate Fitzpatrick. Even with that 90+ QBrating season last year, his career rating is under 80. David Carr and Vince Young territory. There was good reason for BOb to bench him for Mallet. And now Hoyer has beaten out Mallet. Now the same is true of Hoyer in terms of QBrating, but it's been a smaller sample size and he was pretty good first half last year with a bad team. Cautious optimism is OK.
i think Hoyer can be put in a position to get by. Of course, getting by isn't what people want to hear from their starting QB but that's all the texans have. This is a stop gap move and i understand the situation right now. What worries me is the future. Maybe Savage is the guy in one or 2 years (i do like his tools), but it should would be nice to have something more solid or at least more optimistic.
Nobody is saying Hoyer is the savior or the franchise. It was either him or Mallet. So we all knew for a while that Hoyer could be the starter. I prefer Mallet too but if the goal is to win games and OB thinks Hoyer is the better choice, then I will trust his judgement. He made Fitz work so lets see what happens.
I mean he made Fitz work to be a better Fitz...but still not good enough to be a starting NFL QB that works. BOB benched Fitz by week 10. My GUESS is, at some point, Hoyer will end up being benched to see if Mallett can do better.
It's interesting to see Texans fans so desperate that you are hoping to retain services of the sorry qb's on rosters of losing teams. It has come to that. This is a new low. I thought Fitz was pretty low. But this is rock bottom with Hoyer. Cleveland let him go people. Cleveland. Draft a QB next year folks. That is the only hope.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ryan Mallett 'angry' about losing Texans QB competition <a href="http://t.co/Qy0bHxmDYI">http://t.co/Qy0bHxmDYI</a></p>— Aaron Wilson (@AaronWilson_NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/636200778177355776">August 25, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> <blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ryan Mallett is asked if he felt like he got a fair shake in the competition. "It is what it is," he says. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a></p>— Tania Ganguli (@taniaganguli) <a href="https://twitter.com/taniaganguli/status/636195280812154880">August 25, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
i didn't bring that up because it stings so bad...especially the pick before. But I'm trying to let it go. wooosaaahh
I don't think it is overrating Fitz as much as not buying Hoyer as a huge upgrade. Whether Hoyer > Fitz or Fitz > Hoyer (i lean this way), from what we've seen the difference cannot be that much. That's why I'm not losing that much sleep over the decision, I just don't like shuffling from one mediocre QB to another. When coach benched RF for RM last year, I was convinced he saw something in RM that made him believe in him. Does this decision to start Hoyer mean he was wrong?
I think he went to Mallet because he had no other choice. It was either him or stick with Fitz. I don't think OB thought about it any further than that.
Exactly... he was using words like "we need a spark", or "we need to see if he can make us better." last year... it wasn't the Dick Vermeil Kurt Warner endorsement of "we're going to win with him, he's going to be very very good for us..."
By "a number of QB's", you mean Derek Carr and Jimmy Garropolo. Since Garropolo was projected as a 3rd round pick (likely would have been selected by the Texans), and didn't go till the end of the 2nd round as is, it would have been reaching at that point. As far as selecting Carr... I don't know how the fans would have taken that (not that they should have an impact on who they're picking). There are still plenty of question marks on both.
