Personally, I'd rather the Texans have the absolute worst position players of any team in the league and win the Super Bowl, then have the best position players of any team in the league and not make the Super Bowl. You would rather the Texans have a good QB and go 3-13 then have a bad QB and win the Super Bowl. How does that make sense?
I'm not sure I understand the decision to get rid of Fitzpatrick now, honestly. Fitz's best is better than Hoyer's best. And Hoyer's worst is far worse than Fitz's worst. I was not a Fitzpatrick fan...and was happy to see them move on from him...but I had hoped it was going to be for an upgrade.
With the limited samples so far, yes, but long term I am willing to bet this is not true. Training wheels Fitz: 2483 yards, 17 TDs, 8 INTs, 62% complete. Efficient with minimal turnovers? Yes. Good enough to get the Texans to the playoffs? Not by a stretch. If Hoyer or Mallet does worse than that I will be very surprised. IMO we can't expect to be a contender without throwing it 400+ times. And having Fitz do that would be suicide.
I'm not too thrilled about the decision either but I do trust in Coach. What he was able to get out of a very mediocrity quarterback in FitzPatrick, I'm confident he will get the best out of Hoyer.
Lets be fair here. Fitz best was years ago. Hoyer played as starter for the first time, last season. So you are comparing multiple seasons from Fitz, to one season with Hoyer. Give him a chance.
I hope you're right. But Hoyer has been in the league for 6 years now. He'll be 30 in about 6 weeks. Maybe BOB can get more out of him.
Actually, I'd make the argument that this last season was Fitz's best. He kept his INT's down and threw for a higher completion rate than he ever had before.
Man why do you always revert to these type of outburst Bobby. Whenever someone disagrees with your stance, you insults the members knowledge/game. You're talking about leaving SBNation for the same reason. Hey on the cool since you're smarter than everyone else, you might as well start your own forum. That way you don't have to worry about the #HotTakes factory. I was pulling for Mallett as well but coach picked Hoyer. Let's see if he's the QB guru that everyone claims him to be.
BOB likely disagrees. Hell, he'd probably rank Mallett ahead of Fitz as he was prepared to move on from Fitz mid-season last year. Again, its all about comfort level within THIS system between the coaches/players. While Fitz did have his best season ever, BOB probably feels a QB who was raised in this system can do even more than what Fitz did. I agree that Fitz's best was last year... lets see what BOB can do with somebody who he has even more experience with.
Because Hoyer is something different.... that is the only reason. They will pump him up and try to sell him to his teammates and the fans. Typical vanilla, mediocre Texans operating procedure.
Yup, with the same owner.... I don't blame the Texans for making Fitz the fall guy and bringing in another teams fall guy. It has become SOP for teams to swap mediocre/failing quarterbacks. The team could not go into training camp with Fitz under center and sell it to the fans or the players that they would win.... Hoyer is no better, but at least he is different and that will buy them sometime and it is easier to sell.
You really believe that he or Rick Smith is influencing roster decisions at this point? This is BOB's team and he picked these guys... I don't even think he's trying to hide it. It does keep his job pretty secure... there's no chance of "underachieving" with this core. My bet is that if it doesn't work out this year, he'll try to get one of his former Penn St. guys or force a trade for the best young backup available and make hitch his job/wagon to that QB from here on out (like Kubiak did with Schaub).
Funny to see fans who think they know football because they have NFL Red Zone and play fantasy football, question the decision of a smart NFL coach who gets paid millions to evaluate NFL talent and coach. I don't like Hoyer either but I trust the coaches and expect to see Savage fight for the job next year.
I'd honeslty be surprised if some of these people even had the ability to set their lineups. I mean it takes at least a baseline level of intelligence.
I'll say it again: I trust O'Brien. I think a lot of us still blur the Kubiak regime with this one. I get the feeling that BOB has control of the roster and is rebuilding the team to fit his scheme. Fitz was good once he got here. Hoyer has experience in the offense. That should increase his ceiling here. Moreover, comparing Hoyer last year to this year is foolish; the Browns offense was awful last year. Hoyer has more weapons here. Last thing: it's stupid to claim with certainty that Mallet is better. We don't see the practices or the film. The argument that Mallet looked "better in preseason" is foolish because the sample size is incredibly small. It's not even clear that Mallet checking down every plat WAS better. Big arms don't always make good QBs. See Charlie Whitehurst. I'll support Mallet if he gets a shot later, but I'm excited to see what Hoyer brings. Step off the ledge folks.
I disagree, but sure, he had his best season since his peak in Buffalo. I think a lot of that should be credited to OB. The same coach that is going to be working with Hoyer. Who's to say that OB won't have a positive effect on Hoyer? A guy who is suppose to be more comfortable with and knows this system.
Yes I absolutely believe the GM has some say in influencing roster decisions and I would not be shocked if the owner has a certain level of input, although I don't know that for a fact. Yes it does keep BOB's job secure and I do not know that I really blame him. There were no special quarterbacks available on the market and by pumping up Hoyer and moving on from Fitz, the team will be more willing to rally around the new QB and team effort and solidarity may be stronger early in the season. I suspect it also keeps the owner happy in the short term. For better or worse the Texans choose Clowney last and passed up quarterbacks. I suspect that BOB decided he could live with untalented but functional QB's in the short term and wait until a significantly better one becomes available. Still it is very unlikely the Texans get good QB play this season and most likely that means the Texans will not get very far.
