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Source: Texans plan to cut Andre Johnson if he refuses pay cut

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by joeson332, Dec 15, 2014.

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  1. Bobbythegreat

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    In your opinion, what words did I put in his mouth that weren't there? They told him about what his role on the team was going to be and he literally laughed. Nuk was going to be the #1 option, a slot/TE player was going to be the #2 option and he was going to be the #3 option.
     
  2. Fulgore

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    Lets hope so. His 16 yard kickoff returns were tragic to watch.
     
  3. Bobbythegreat

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    The idea was always to bring in someone at the slot/TE position that would be the #2 option, that's how BOB's system works. It put Andre as the 3rd option and he didn't like it. That's why they never got to the contract talk because Andre still thinks that he's a different player than he is. They had to force 147 pass attempts his way just to get 85 receptions for 936 yards, they weren't going to try and force it this season thus he was going to be more in line for 40 receptions.
     
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    Those are the words you are putting in Andre's head. I highly doubt that was his problem.

    The reason why those passes were thrown to him was because he was the 2nd best receiver on the team. If he is still on the team, he is still the 2nd best receiver on the team. Again, they could have waited till they brought in that slot WR/TE before saying he wasn't a starter. That's like going to Dwight Howard and saying in 2015/16 he's going to have to come off the bench playing only about 10 minutes a game. He too would lol about it
     
  5. Bobbythegreat

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    I'm not really putting those words in his mouth, he as much as said them himself. He thinks his role should be more than that and BOB disagrees. Sure they could have lied to him and made it seem like they wanted him to stay as the #2 option, but that would have been a lie. Also there's a big difference between 2015/2016 Dwight Howard and Andre Johnson this year, it would be more accurate to compare 1999 Hakeem Olajuwon to this year's Andre Johnson.

    Anyway, he can feel free to LOL about the role they had for him....on another team.
     
  6. Mr. Clutch

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    No he didn't say that
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    Ah, so you heard Andre Johnson's response and didn't think that he was trying to say that he still had a lot left in the tank and that he should have a bigger role than what the Texans had prepared for him?
     
  8. Mr. Clutch

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    No, and you didn't either. Which is my point.

    There's never been an indication that he doesn't want to defer to Nuke or that he thinks he's as good as ever. But does he still want a big role? Duh.
     
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    So you say no indicating you disagree with what I said, then you end by agreeing with what I said going so far as to say "Duh".....LOL I think you're s a bit confused.

    There's only room for one #1 type WR in BOB's system, that's Nuk. BOB's #2 option is a TE or slot guy, neither of which is Dre pushing him to the #3 role. Dre thought he deserved a better role thus he was told to go out and find someone that wanted to use him like that.
     
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    No, your original post said dre though he is as good as he used to be and that he doesn't want to defer to nuke.

    That's putting words in his mouth.

    That he doesn't want a hugely reduced role is all we know.
     
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    Wes Welker and Gronkowski are not on the Texans' roster. Are you saying that Damaris Johnson deserves to start over Andre Johnson?

    Back to my Dwight analogy; if the Rockets bring in Marc Gasol and tell Dwight he is going to be benched it makes a whole lot of sense than to say it when the only other centers on the roster is Joey Dorsey and Dmo.

    What they did was pretty much a squeeze out. Instead of just firing you, we'll make things so uncomfortable for you that you're going to want to quit.
     
  12. Bobbythegreat

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    The only way he could fit in BOB's system and not have a hugely reduced role was if he was the #1 WR. He'd have to be better than Nuk for that to happen and he's simply not at this point.

    Your Dwight analogy is flawed as I've already pointed out because Dwight isn't over the hill like Andre is. Anyway, I get that you just want to whine about this, so feel free. I won't get in your way anymore.
     
  13. Mr. Clutch

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    And that completely different from what you said earlier.
     
  14. Nimo

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    ha! Just calling a spade a spade. Too bad you refuse to
     
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    It's really not. He thought he should still have a top role despite his decline and the team didn't want to pretend that he could still do that.
     
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    The team made a mistake when they went in the public and said Andre Johnson will retire as a Texan. Gave them no choice but to find a way to cop out when this offseason came. And the way they did this was asking him if he would be ok with a reduced role, knowing he would decline this (due to the inevitable next step being a pay cut).

    Otherwise, this is the right move. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
     
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    Well it actually is because you don't need to be as good as ever and better than nuke to still have a big role
     
  18. Nimo

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    Agreed!
     
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    Oh and it was all about the money. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just plain dumb... the role stuff was just something that Andre 's camp could use in the media to make us look like the bad guys and him look like the good guy.

    In reality, neither are bad. It just had to happen.
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    Sure, I guess BOB could scrap his system and build a new one around Andre Johnson....instead he decided to stick with the way he wanted to build the team which means that the only possible spot Andre could fill was #1 or #3 and he wasn't good enough to be a #1 anymore and his ego wouldn't allow him to fill the #3 spot.
     
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