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Source: Texans plan to cut Andre Johnson if he refuses pay cut

Discussion in 'Houston Texans' started by joeson332, Dec 15, 2014.

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  1. Nimo

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    How successful will a franchise be if they didn't care about a player's well being? Not if they depend on the public to be successful. Not to mention lawsuits. Not off-topic because how you treat a player affects the fans as well as other players.
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Incredibly successful? That's pretty much been the Pats MO for the past decade plus and I don't think the sky is falling for them. Franchises that care about winning, win. Franchises that care about players.....well that's the Kubiak way, the Bum Phillips way, the Wade Phillips way. Not a ton of winning there.
     
  3. Zacatecas

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    This ultimately will be good for Andre. Now he can sign with a well managed team. Unfortunately he has been stuck on a bad managed team. A team that went the good guy scenario, but has been riddled with loyalty to subpar talent.

    It would have made for a good Hollywood movie (for kids), but in reality the past shows that big contracts were given to guys because of loyalty. Cushing for all his hard work and energy, should not have been given such a big contract. David Carr was given his humongous contract, out of loyalty. Among many others.

    Maybe with this next huge overhaul rebuild, the Texans will be quicker to recognize the correct decisions. The GM and coaches need to have gut instinct, that are done more out of competent football analytics, as opposed to loyalty.
     
  4. joeson332

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    We need a wr, te, nt, olb, cb, everything geesh
     
  5. joeson332

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    Also has the Keshawn Martin returning kicks expirement ended yet?
     
  6. Nimo

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    I already discussed this with someone earlier today about the Patriots. Making shrewd decisions are different; that doesn't mean you don't care about the player's well being. I'm not going to do it again. Neither am I going to argue why the "patriot's way" works for the patriots but not every other team.
     
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    And even then, the Oilers got rid of Earl Campbell towards the end... and Bum.
     
  8. Bobbythegreat

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    The decision to cut Andre was a shrewd one....and it doesn't mean that the Texans don't care about the players well being, it's that they just care about their well being more so.....which they should.
     
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    Wait, wait, wait... you are so far off the rails here, a reset is in order: the Texans are NOT mistreating Andre Johnson. They've paid him tens of millions of dollars and, at the end, allowed him to chart his own path.

    Sure, he's irked he's not cashing a $10MM paycheck this year. Who wouldn't be? But there's no residual impact here. AJ will be back in however many years for his jersey retirement ceremony; no hard feelings. These guys understand it's a business. You, otoh, I'm not so sure...
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Football lives matter!

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  12. Nimo

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    Cutting a player is part of the business. So is not re-signing or trading him. I'm not even mad that they allegedly didn't even ask him to restructure or take a pay cut. They just said "you suck". He disagreed and then they said "you can look for a trade partner". Who does that? lol

    I'm over it. I was really commenting about "not caring about a player's well being."
     
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    **** it really happend. good luck mr houston texan
     
  14. Bobbythegreat

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    They were simply honest with him, they were going to go a different direction because he was obviously not the #1 WR on the team anymore and BOB's system called for a slot guy or a TE to be the #2 pass catcher. It would mean that he'd only get like 40 passes this year and they were straight forward about it....how do you spin that to them saying "you suck" or them disrespecting him?
     
  15. Nimo

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    Honesty would have been "we would like to trade/cut you because...".
     
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    No, they wanted him to stay, but they knew that in order to do that he'd have to accept the new role and a massive pay cut. They laid that out to him and he opted to spend the last year or two of his career elsewhere.
     
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    They offered him a paycut? I haven't heard or read that anywhere
     
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    They never got that far because he outright rejected the reduced role they had planned for him. He wanted to believe that he was still one of the best receivers in the NFL and wasn't open to taking a back seat to Nuk.
     
  19. Mr. Clutch

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    Nice job putting words in his mouth
     
  20. Nimo

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    Doubt that. I don't think Andre had a problem being the #2 being Hopkins. That's pretty much what he was in 2014. Doesn't mean he had to be benched. You want your receiver to believe they are one of the best receivers in the league. And you definitely want him to think he is better than Garret Graham and Damaris Johnson. No other receiver, aside from Hopkins, is better than him. This would have made more sense after they signed Julius Thomas or Jeremy Maclin.
     
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