1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

Source: CP3 is willing to leave money on the table but will first let Morey work

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Eddie Cecco, Jun 20, 2018.

  1. HTown_TMac

    HTown_TMac Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2006
    Messages:
    4,530
    Likes Received:
    1,518
    Absolutely no way this happens without a trade in place.
     
    sammy likes this.
  2. SWTsig

    SWTsig Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Dec 20, 2002
    Messages:
    13,956
    Likes Received:
    3,574
    everyone over here trying to play armchair GM/capologist when none of it matters. guaranteed that if LBJ says he wants to come to Houston Morey will find a way to make it happen. period. how is this even a question is beyond me.

    whether or not LBJ wants to come here is a separate issue entirely... but if he does, stop trying to play Rain Man with your cap scenarios. they mean nothing.
     
  3. YOLO

    YOLO Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2012
    Messages:
    46,688
    Likes Received:
    44,885
    welcome to #offseason life
     
  4. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    62,594
    Likes Received:
    56,363
    Yes, I'm just re-stating that. As many people (me included) think Ryan for no salary back is a dream scenario, even with tossing in picks.

    Just ask yourself a question: Assuming CLE refuses to take Ryan, how many 3rd teams can take $20m in salary without sending some back. And out of the remainder, how many of them would, rather then asking us to take some unwanted salary back...(we have room to match Lebron with EGo+Ryan and take $5-8m back). Many trade scenarios here (include the one by @aelliott) involve us having to take some salary back.
     
  5. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    62,594
    Likes Received:
    56,363
    Read again....an opt-in without a trade still allows Lebron to go anywhere he wants. He can still go to LA, Bos, Philly and Hou. It's a win-win-win for Lebron, CLE and Morey to get more time to get Lebron and Cle the best offers. Lebron just has to have assurance from Gilbert and trust him, that he will get traded, if he wants.

    Keeping Houston in play benefits both Lebron and CLE.

    Yes, Lebron would need to trust CLE to trade him. But it might be his *only* way to get to Houston, because Morey might need more time to trade Ryno. and if Morey still fails to move Ryno, CLE can still do a trade with LA to avoid getting nothing back.

    If on June 29th, Paul calls Lebron to give him the bad news that Morey needs more time, are Paul and Lebron just going to say, "Oh well, at least we tried."?

    And is CLE also going to say, "damn Ryno's contract, now LA will get Lebron for nothing. But we just can't take on both EGo and Ryan's contract."
     
    #125 heypartner, Jun 20, 2018
    Last edited: Jun 20, 2018
    RyanB, hakeem94 and bulkatron like this.
  6. Huricane

    Huricane Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 2000
    Messages:
    455
    Likes Received:
    286
    Did a quick google search for Eddie Cecco.

    An interview with a guy interviewing Clint Capela came up.
    I wonder if the guy doing the interview is Eddie Cecco.

     
  7. Zoplicone

    Zoplicone Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2013
    Messages:
    4,903
    Likes Received:
    3,863
    That's such a ridiculous statement. Of course we can question all that. For christ sake Melo wanted to come here and we couldn't make it happen.
    The salaries is an issue whether you like it or not.
     
  8. HTown_TMac

    HTown_TMac Member

    Joined:
    May 10, 2006
    Messages:
    4,530
    Likes Received:
    1,518
    It’d be quite boring without that. Let people learn things or even throw out implausible scenarios.
     
    justtxyank likes this.
  9. justtxyank

    justtxyank Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2005
    Messages:
    42,741
    Likes Received:
    39,402
    I just don't see this scenario working. If he "opts-in" he has to count on Gilbert allowing him to go to whatever team he wants to go to. What if Gilbert says "We just can't make a deal work with Houston Lebron, sorry."

    I don't know. The power to opt-out and leave is really the only leverage he has. Once he's opted in it gives Gilbert a little bit of leverage.

    "Sorry Lebron, I'm willing to send you to Houston but they can't do anything with Ryan Anderson and I won't take him."
    "I'd send you to the Lakers but they are trying to make me take on Luol Deng and I won't do that."

    I just don't see it. If he opts-in I think he already has the team picked out and it's not the Lakers.
     
    D-rock likes this.
  10. heypartner

    heypartner Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Oct 27, 1999
    Messages:
    62,594
    Likes Received:
    56,363
    Yeah, but If he opts-out, Gilbert is facing getting nothing back. Gilbert has incentive to keep Houston in play as a trading partner. He can pitch us against LA, Bos and Philly, etc. More time cannot hurt Gilbert. It can only help him.

    What you're saying is if Morey and Lebron both go to Gilbert on June 29th and ask for more time or Lebron will opt-out and bolt to LA for nothing. that Gilbert will say "fine, do it." Or he will say, "OK, more time will help me get something back. If Lebron opts-in, I promise to at least trade Lebron to LA into capspace by Aug 31st." And then he completely reneges and keeps Lebron.
     
  11. Scottay

    Scottay Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Feb 17, 2009
    Messages:
    182
    Likes Received:
    18
  12. Aruba77

    Aruba77 Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 1999
    Messages:
    13,778
    Likes Received:
    14,986
    Thanks for the inside info Eddie!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    D-rock and hakeem94 like this.
  13. aroundtheblock2

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2013
    Messages:
    1,672
    Likes Received:
    1,755
    This is where a 3rd team gets involved, Bulls, Suns, Kings, etc.


    Yes. I agree. Philly is just an awkward fit and I don't see that team ready to beat GSW, not even close. I think Ben Simmons has a long way to go offensively.
     
  14. farhen

    farhen Member

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2017
    Messages:
    2,012
    Likes Received:
    1,342
  15. theDude

    theDude Contributing Member
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2003
    Messages:
    3,187
    Likes Received:
    4,343
    I agree. Which is why I believe we only have to wait until the 29th. If he opts in, it's to be traded. If he's staying in Cleveland, why not become FA and let them try to lure players and then re-up with the same contract he's been doing? If he's not announced as traded to the Rockets on the 29th, he ain't coming.
     
    sammy likes this.
  16. macan

    macan Member

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2017
    Messages:
    6,878
    Likes Received:
    10,487
    op = Morey's burner account?
     
    brosef likes this.
  17. basketballholic

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2013
    Messages:
    17,516
    Likes Received:
    4,171
    Ummmmmm

    I already mentioned this.

    But it works better this way.

    Trade is agreed upon to be executed before the moratorium and is leaked to the media. Then Morey entices a better deal by throwing Cleveland something extra if they wait until after the moratorium.....(cash, second round pick, etc)

    By the way, I already brought up this possibility several days ago.
     
  18. Francis3422

    Francis3422 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2000
    Messages:
    8,063
    Likes Received:
    5,806
    No one said jack when I brought thiz up yesterday either!
     
  19. Dacamel

    Dacamel Member

    Joined:
    May 2, 2009
    Messages:
    898
    Likes Received:
    1,298
    Don't forget Burt Steele
     
  20. meh

    meh Contributing Member

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2002
    Messages:
    15,423
    Likes Received:
    2,311
    "Source" as in singular and not multiple sauces? I call BS!
     

Share This Page

  • About ClutchFans

    Since 1996, ClutchFans has been loud and proud covering the Houston Rockets, helping set an industry standard for team fan sites. The forums have been a home for Houston sports fans as well as basketball fanatics around the globe.

  • Support ClutchFans!

    If you find that ClutchFans is a valuable resource for you, please consider becoming a Supporting Member. Supporting Members can upload photos and attachments directly to their posts, customize their user title and more. Gold Supporters see zero ads!


    Upgrade Now