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Sotomayor: A Latina Judge's Voice

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by basso, May 26, 2009.

  1. FranchiseBlade

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    You just supported a President who had openly racist people in charge of civil rights in the Justice Department.

    I don't think you have the slightest clue what would make Dr. King roll over in his grave.
     
  2. basso

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    Link?
     
  3. SamFisher

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    Wow, I figured with all this posting and all these people, somebody would be able to tell me where Her Honor Judge Sonia Sotomayor stood on the Americans with Disabilities Act.


    I guess nobody cares about the ADA anymore.

    Sad. I empathize with those people affected and their loved ones.
     
  4. FranchiseBlade

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    I've linked it numerous times before.

    Here's some refesher for you.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/14/former-doj-voting-rights_n_157949.html

    http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1202427625817

    Of course the person Schlozman was talking about graduated Magna c*m-Laude from a top law school.

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    Please don't be lazy again, because I'm not reposting links I've already addressed multiple times
     
  5. mc mark

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    Today from Time.com

    The Sotomayor Pick: Bridging the Black-Latino Divide

    Judge Sonia Sotomayor's nomination to the U.S. Supreme Court is a historic milestone for Latinos, but it resonates well beyond Hispanic pride. It is perhaps the most potent symbol yet of a 21st century rapprochement between the U.S.'s two largest minorities, Latino Americans and African Americans, who in the 20th century could be as violently distrustful of each other as blacks and whites were.

    After Latinos helped make Barack Obama the U.S.'s first black President by giving him a remarkable 67% of their vote and Obama seemingly returned the favor by selecting (pending her Senate confirmation) the first Latino Supreme Court Justice, decades of friction between the two groups seem to be melting like asphalt on a hot summer day in Sotomayor's native Bronx. "The symbolism can't be overstated," says former New Orleans mayor Marc Morial, president of the National Urban League, one of the country's largest African-American organizations. "There is a much greater sense of solidarity now between the two groups." Says Fernand Amandi, executive vice president of the Bendixen & Associates public-opinion-research firm in Miami: "Ethnic tensions won't be ended by one Supreme Court nomination, but the picture of an African-American President standing with a Latina Supreme Court nominee shows the groups coming together at the highest positions in the country. That can't help but improve relations." (View pictures of Sonia Sotomayor: "The Making of a Judge.")

    And it's bad news for an already beleaguered Republican Party. Just five years ago, the GOP thought it had begun a conquest of the Hispanic vote, but it saw its share of that electorate plunge 13 points in last year's presidential election, when Obama persuaded Hispanics that they could trust a liberal black candidate to champion their interests after all.

    As Amandi notes, one election and one high-court pick won't have blacks and Hispanics sharing rap and salsa around a campfire. Immigration, for example, isn't a priority issue for African Americans — most Latinos feel Obama needs to ratchet up his commitment to it — and Latinos aren't as passionate about affirmative action. But it is indeed hard to overstate what a sea change their apparent alliance represents. As the U.S. Latino population began to mushroom in the 1980s and minority competition for employment and resources became more acute, the black-brown divide turned into a chasm. Many blacks viewed Latinos as interlopers getting a free ride on the civil-rights trail African-Americans had blazed; Latinos resented the notion that they were merely junior partners in minority politics, that their own demands for good jobs, schools and neighborhoods were somehow considered gate-crashing.

    By the '90s, the frustrations turned violent. In 1991 blacks rioted for days in Cuban-dominated Miami after the conviction of a Hispanic police officer for killing two African Americans was overturned. That same year, Hispanics in black-controlled Washington, D.C., did the same after a Latino was wounded by a black cop.

    Through it all, blacks tended to retain their political leverage because Hispanic voter turnout was abysmal by comparison. That began to change at the turn of this century, when Latinos not only overtook African Americans as the largest U.S. minority (now about 15% of the U.S. population) but also started building ballot-box muscle. By 2004 they seemed to be splitting with the Democratic Party as well, giving George W. Bush a surprising 44% of their vote in that year's presidential election.

    But the GOP, owing to its rabid anti-immigration current and the failing economy, alienated those Latino voters almost as quickly as it had gained them. That allowed Obama's 2008 campaign to build common ground with Hispanics on issues like health care; in the end, he even took the Latino vote in Florida, a once reliable Republican bloc.

    Race-relations experts, meanwhile, did double takes. As recently as 2007, a poll conducted by Bendixen and the California-based New America Media organization had found that a majority of Hispanics and blacks preferred to do business with whites than with each other. But in a Gallup survey last year, about two-thirds of each group suddenly said they thought their relations were good. "From a Hispanic perspective, Obama's election didn't just mean that a black man could be President, but that any minority person could," says Freddy Balsera, a Miami-based consultant who headed the Obama campaign's Hispanic- communications effort and is now a chair of the Democratic Party's National Hispanic Leadership Council. "As a result, on Election Day you could feel a new appreciation on both sides for each community's struggles."

    Much of the change is generational — an acknowledgment by younger blacks and Hispanics that their parents' adversarial relationship makes less sense in the more genuinely multiracial society the U.S. has become. "You look at President Obama and Judge Sotomayor, and you don't just see a black and a Hispanic but also Columbia and Harvard and Princeton and Yale," says Morial, who attended Tuesday's White House ceremony announcing Sotomayor's selection, referring to the universities Obama and Sotomayor attended. "You see two beneficiaries of civil rights representing a new generation that no longer sees their two communities as competing with each other. The mindset that existed before is dying out."

    For one thing, Morial says, the two sides have begun to learn much more about each other, thanks in part to joint political lobbying work in recent years between groups like the Urban League and La Raza, a major Latino advocacy organization in Washington. Black leaders now realize that they can't expect a group like Latinos, with such diverse national origins, to be as politically monolithic as blacks have historically been. Latino leaders, in turn, are less prone to underestimate (as leaders in South American and Caribbean countries too often do) the social disadvantages of being black in America.

    At the White House, Sotomayor remarked that she has "stood on the shoulders of countless people." The truth is that some of those shoulders belonged to African Americans who marched and died during the civil-rights era so minorities could someday become Supreme Court Justices. But if it's fitting that more Latinos today recognize the debt they owe the past, it's just as appropriate that blacks are more seriously acknowledging "how important Latinos are to the future of the country," says Amandi. Or, as Obama may well have been saying when he nominated Sotomayor this week, how important they already are to its present.

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    Whaddya say Jorge?
     
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  7. Refman

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    Are you referring to the decision (Bartlett v. New York State Board of Law Examiners) in which she extended application of the ADA to those with dyslexia sitting for the Bar Exam?
     
  8. SamFisher

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    No but thank you for REASONABLY ACCOMODATING me by venturing a guess.
     
  9. bejezuz

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    It's nice seeing so many people accommodating your various impairments, Sam. We wouldn't want any undue hardship.
     
  10. Rocketman95

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    beautiful.
     
  11. SamFisher

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    while this was referring to Limbaugh, Gingrich, etc...it's equally applicable to basso, jorge, etc on this board:


     
  12. pgabriel

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    If the GOP experiences a long decline in power and relevance, they can look to losing the Latino/Hispanic vote as one if not the number one issue. The wingers on the wingnut radio network busy focusing on the illegals don't realize that the Mexican population living in America who have been living here is a fairly conservative more than liberal group of voters, of the ones who vote. This is something that even Bush understood.

    But I guess they have to hang on to the base. Oh well
     
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  13. glynch

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    Oh Oh, the gig is up for the GOP of the Southern Strategy employed by Nixon, Reagan and Bush I and II. What will bigtexx, TJ and Basso do?

    This is looking more and more like a major major realignment election.
     
  14. Oski2005

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    Notice who asks the question that starts these remarks off. Hopefully somebody will ask the "pundits" to compare and contrast here.
     
  15. wnes

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    The statement just seems odd, if not counterintuitive.

    If the richness of a Latina woman's experiences were indeed relevant, wouldn't a better conclusion be more naturally reached by the said Latina woman than by a random white male? And if so, why would Sotomayor hope, as oppose to expect, it to happen?

    It would probably make more sense if she stated that she would hope a white male can reach an equally good or even better conclusion despite lacking the richness of a Latina woman's experiences.
     
  16. SamFisher

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    You're either using babelfish or parsing too literally.
     
  17. wnes

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    This is what you typically do when you get out-lawyered?
     
  18. basso

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    they did.

    NYTimes yesterday
    [rquoter]If Judge Sotomayor joins the court, it will be a special point of pride for Hispanic-Americans — as it was for Jews, blacks and women before them to see one of their own take a seat on the highest tribunal in the land. It will also bring the paltry number of female justices back to two. And as Democratic Party strategists have no doubt calculated, the selection could give Mr. Obama and his party a boost with a key voting group.[/rquoter]

    and October, 1991
    [rquoter]The fault, in the end, is not that of the nominee but of the man who nominated him, the patron of little-known, untested or inflammatory appointments for offices reaching up to the Vice Presidency. By nominating this black conservative, President Bush serves a narrow partisan interest when the public has a right to expect him to nominate a lawyer or judge of proven distinction.

    ...SNIP...

    As the nation waits to learn more about Clarence Thomas, the questions will concern not so much his talent but his character. Even his rise from poverty and racial isolation will be less interesting than how that experience has affected his regard for other Americans and whether he understands how their lives and rights are affected by law and official action.[/rquoter]
     
  19. glynch

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    Sotomayor. I think I am in love. Only Deckard, and Thumbs might appreciate this, though they are probably dirty old men who go (in their dreams) for the twenty year olds. Come to think of it, the twenty year olds do do have their charms. ;)
     
  20. basso

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    hmmmm, Sotomayor, from 1996:

    "The public expects the law to be static and predictable. The law, however, is uncertain and responds to changing circumstances. ... the public fails to appreciate the importance of indefiniteness in the law."​
     

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