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Sorry, but our starting 5 has to change

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by WoodlandsBoy, Jan 7, 2010.

  1. Rocketboi

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    actually i think our best starting five would be

    Pg Aaron Brooks
    Sg Von Wafer
    Sf Trevor Ariza
    Pf Luis Scola
    C Chuck Hayes

    Our Backup

    Pg Kyle Lowry
    Sg Chase Bud
    Sf Shane Battier
    Pf Carl Landry
    C David Andersen


    that way both lineups have are about as equal as each other in both offense and defense.
     
  2. DaDakota

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    Battier > Ariza

    So which one would you sit?

    DD
     
  3. True Rocket

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    Aaron Brooks
    Chase Budinger
    Tracy McGrady
    Carl Landry
    Chuck Hayes
     
  4. abc2007

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    Battier's minutes should be reduced. He is too tired. But, I don't think he should come off the bench. He is the soul of this team. I wish they could trade Ariza as soon as possible.

     
  5. Ramathorn006

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    I doubt Ariza would want to come off the bench, and since Adelman is all over his private part I dont see that happeneing in the near future. I wouldnt mind Battier coming off the bench and giving more minutes to Buddinger and then if Von can pass a physical we have him replace the scoring Buddinger provides off the bench. Perfect scenario. OR just make a deal with Philly and let us have Iggy :grin: .
     
  6. solid

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    Rafer, Jr. needs fewer minutes, and he should earn them back by proving himself in practice. He is not the only problem, right now, but he is the primary one. You can't be a volume shooter when you are the worst shooter in the league.
     
  7. redao

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    If Battier is the soul of the team, this team will never fly around because their soul is always standing, waiting and missing open shots.

    I wish they could trade Battier for anything when he still has value.
     
  8. abc2007

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    Those are the things that you saw form Battier?!

     
  9. LCII

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    I've been saying for ages, C-Bud is way more of a SG than Ariza can hope to be, start him over Ariza....!

    Also, Ariza could probably benefit from Lowry's playmaking.
     
  10. daernoth

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    About that first sentence... I keep wondering whether Adelman really likes Ariza that much or he feels himself under pressure because of the long contract the Rox gave Ariza. Either way giving him so many minutes and topping that off with such a short leash is detrimental to the team.

    I still don't understand why he couldn't give some of Ariza's minutes to Tmac when CBud got injured. Private parts may indeed be involved. :eek:
     
  11. Ramathorn006

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    My thoughts exactly. Therefore, as you said as well, i think private part have been an issue in the scenario.
     
  12. northeastfan

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    The good news is that we may very well have the best bench in basketball. The bad news is that the bench is much better than our starters.
     
  13. solid

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    Funny, but mostly true; however AB and Scola are the exceptions on most nights.
     
  14. rwienert

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    I don't think it's that cut and dry. Most of the Battier supporters in the past have taken refuge in the fact that you need Shane out there to lock down guys like Kobe. When I've watched the Rockets play the Lakers this year, we throw Ariza at Kobe just as much as we do Battier, even when both are on the floor.

    Both are poorly suited to play the two guard spot, especially with a shoot first point guard like Brooks. The Rockets would be better off playing more of a true shooting guard like Chase (or Von....your welcome DD), regardless of experience.

    I honestly believe that Trevor brings more to the table than Battier at this point in their careers, but Trevor might be better suited for playing with the second unit on this team. The reason is that Shane seems completely content to sit around and wait for someone to get him an open look on offense (what most people seem to consider "knowing your limits", I consider to be a huge lack of a contribution). Brooks is good at beating his man in the half court and drawing defenders. Battier is capable as a spot up shooter, not much else (offensively).

    Ariza, on the other hand, seems better suited to run with Lowry, who is constantly looking for opportunities to push the ball, whether or not the defense is lazy. There are lots of plays where he is taking on multiple defenders in the open court by himself, because those defenders realize he's attacking too late. If Lowry had someone up there with him to feed, those plays would be much more successful.
     
  15. MadRox

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    I'd like to see a Brooks/CBud/Bat/Landry/Chuck starting 5, but the way i see it is
    that the Rockets are actually starting to get the respects. If you go back and watch the Lakers game, they started to double team these "No Names" :cool: We were doing good when it's 1on1 defense, but our guys are so inefficient against double team and horrible at passing out a double team, often resulting in turnovers.
     
  16. LosPollosHermanos

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    been the case everytime.
     
  17. gumbleton3

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    (Don't want to start a thread on this and don't know where to post this)
    Cause I've only followed NBA for 2 seasons my knowledge is very limited but what do intangibles actually mean?
     
  18. LosPollosHermanos

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    things you can't put into stats. Players like battier make their impact off the stat box/card.

    Intangible is something you can't grasp, or put into some form. These things are like attitude, hustle plays, etc...
     
  19. gumbleton3

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    Thanks, much appreciated.
     
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    I think Adelman's offense needs players with both superior passing skills and offensive ability. In Sacramento, for example, Adelman had Chris Webber and Vlade Divac, whom Adelman said were the engine of his offense.

    Currently, the Rockets have players that are either good passers or good scorers, but not both. That goes for the starters and the bench. Budinger has size and potential to be such a player, but it's too early say and too early to insert him into the starting lineup. Lowry doesn't have the shooting touch to go with his high passing/playmaking ability.

    Basically, with this roster, any lineup change will have limited success. Adelman has gotten the most out of what he has. Real change will happen through trade/FA signings.
     

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