I never said winning is all that matters, but it's a huge consideration. The reason why the win-loss ratio in baseball is almost irrelevant is that a pitcher can pitch a terrible game, but still pick up a win if he has the Angels offense. Can you name me one of these wins on Simms' resume where he has played terrible, but gotten to pick up a win? Kagy: actually, when it was 36-17, it was Washington running the tight end Stevens across the middle on almost every play and picking up chunks of yardage against our defense, much like Quentin Griffin a couple of weeks ago. When Major was the QB, and the defense gave up those plays, it was the defense that got the blame. When Chris was the QB, and the defense gave up those plays, it was Chris that got the blame. Hmm...
The Holiday Bowl was 23-14 at halftime. All the INTs happened prior to halftime. The game was clearly still within reach at that point. The CU game was 29-10 right before halftime. Texas was getting BLOWN OUT. Simms was mentally done and CU had ALL the momentum. To compare the two situations is just flat-out silly. You're right...anyone should be expected to come right in and quarterback a bowl game after only playing one half the entire year, and not be rusty. You mean your Chris Simms-actual-interceptions-and-touchdowns method of evaluating a player doesn't factor in rust? I would've thought that would've been in there for sure.
Cat, I think you missed the point. By the time it was 36-17, we had a whole set of other problems to deal with. Major's interceptions had nothing to do with the flow of the game at that point. They were much more salient to what was happening when it was 13-0 and we couldn't do **** on offense. That makes the 13-0 situation a better comparison to 29-10 than the situation in the third quarter, when both teams were calmed down and simply playing their respective games. Pull the tape out and watch it and see if you don't agree.
The Cat, I think it is really lame for you to place "I lost a bet" in your signature. Was that part of bet that you could make a Texcuse for your signature?
Everyone agrees the offense sucks. But is it Greg Davis or Chris Simms? I don't see why it can't be both. The offense was ranked much higher before Simms took over. The offense has succeeded with Greg Davis; it has not with Chris Simms. I happen to really dislike Greg Davis. I think he's unimaginative, overly conservative, and consistently outwitted by clever opposing coordinators. But, come on, Simms has tremendous physical tools and great accuracy, but he's a horrific decision maker. He hasn't has a single good game yet this year.
Once again, on the money. And don't get me wrong, I've given Chris the last 3 years to prove the critics wrong. I've backed him, I've stated he was better than Ragone, Leftwich, etc. Chris's main physical tool is he can throw the ball far. Other than that, I think he's average across the board. He doesn't have a feel for the game. This was excusable when he was a freshman and a sophmore, but not now. You can see his wide receivers (well, at least Roy) are somewhat frustrated with him. On one of the sacks, you could see Roy giving a "look for me" gesture when they were headed to the sideline. He just doesn't read the field well. He'll get lucky plays here and there, but he just doesn't have "it." It kills me to say that because he's a good guy and I root for him. I want him to prove me wrong. Also, the Big 3 were 3 of the top ten wrs in the country their senior years. Everyone was after them. They can't all suck, can they? The reason for some of the drops is Chris doesn't throw a very catchable ball. Favre and Leftwich's arms are at least as strong as Chris', yet their wrs don't have the case of the dropsies. Roy's best year was when he was a freshman. He didn't even start until midway through that year. Major was the QB for most of that year. Everyone was riding Chris's jock after the KSU game. What'd he have, 184 yards? Come on. Oh, and Davis is part of the problem,imo.
This is a good point. I feel that Rob Chudzinski, the O-Coordinator of Miami, is VERY conservative. Every time Miami runs the ball, it seems like everyone knows that it is coming. They have been very fortunate that hasn't hurt them as they have had great talent, especially at the skill positions. But in the end, it is up to the players to step up and make a play. Some are able to do it better than others. I just don't think that Simms is able to step up and make a play when his team needs it.
What was he doing, pointing to a spot three yards past the line of scrimmage where his hitch pattern would take him...?
On this play, Roy was 15-20 yards downfield. Maybe Roy improvised. I just find it hard to believe that all 3 of our wr's suck. One, maybe. BUt all 3? It's the system or the triggerman.
It is a trifold enigma, a three-pronged spear of suckitude, a Holy Trinity of Underachievement. 1) Greg Davis sucks. 2) Chris Simms takes some of the blame. 3) Our receivers are gimped up and are dropping passes. These three mighty forces have combined to produce a staggering, sloppy, under-productive offense. We look like Aggies out there. Actually we look like the Aggies used to look, before they settled on their Bon Jovi offense.
Well, considering someone (even with that statement in there) jumped down my throat thinking I had jumped ship, I'd prefer not to get personally attacked every day by someone who didn't know what we were talking about. Everyone was riding Chris's jock after the KSU game. What'd he have, 184 yards? Come on. Considering he had no running game, a terrible offensive gameplan, and was facing a top five defense on the road, that's pretty nice. I just don't think that Simms is able to step up and make a play when his team needs it. OK, I'll give you a scenario. top 5 defense, on the road, season on the line (BCS and possible run for title vs. Alamo Bowl and failure), tie game, 3:00 left, 3rd and 11 K-State brings everyone, and while getting crushed, Simms throws a dart 30 yards down the field that hits BJ Johnson in the numbers, setting up the game winning field goal. I suppose that play doesn't count? You mean your Chris Simms-actual-interceptions-and-touchdowns method of evaluating a player doesn't factor in rust? I would've thought that would've been in there for sure. No-- I think that if you played late in the season, and had a month's worth of practice with the first team, you should be prepared to go in there and not make mistakes. I don't consider that as a reason for underacheiving, but if you are going to use it as an excuse for Major, you need to use it for Simms too. It's the same scenario. Also, freak, since you bring up momentum, you don't think the three interceptions Major threw in the first half gave Washington some halftime momentum to come out and excel early? Major's interceptions had nothing to do with the flow of the game at that point. And Simms' interceptions weren't the only thing to affect the flow. Even when Simms wasn't intercepted, or when CU had a long field to drive on, CU pounded it straight down the teeth of our defense, like Washington did with Stevens across the middle. Simms sucked, but there was another set of problems. People just generally ignored it so they could bash Simms, but instead decided to criticize the defense when Major was at QB.
Oh, isn't that part of the bet, though. You have to handle all the UT fans thinking you jumped ship. Take your punishment. I'm going to have to again, because it looks like I'm going to lose my Yao Ming starting bet.
I didn't think it was. I suppse it's up to duke, but if UT had won, I wouldn't mind him putting it in. It's all in fun between those of us that talk UT football in the hangout, but I didn't think the point was for some new people to think I hate UT.
btw: Kim... I did not cease my Yao Ming/Cato arrangement until yesterday when windandsea posted the quote of Yao expecting not to start. All bets in before yesterday are still good.
THEY ARE NOT THE SAME ****ING THING. Christ. I am through trying to have a reasonable discussion with you. You are clueless.
Like Kagy said, you are clueless. Check the numbers.[/QUOTE] What ???? you just said statistics were not the whole story earlier in this thread, yet you tell me to look at the numbers.
