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Something to remember about Kevin McHale for folks who don't understand the "benching" thing...

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Carl Herrera, Oct 11, 2013.

  1. RedRedemption

    RedRedemption Contributing Member

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    Yeah. We're getting rid of Lin for Beverley/Brooks. :rolleyes:
    Unbelievable.
     
  2. Whoopy

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    See the number of threads already posted on this? Just the start if it actually happens.
     
  3. Rox23

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    If the Rox get rid of Lin (or put him on the bench) the whole offense would change overnight to an ISO style offense where Harden would run the point and take turns with Dwight taking their man one on one. The other three guys in the lineup would be there just to shoot open threes and collect rebounds.

    This approach has been tried already, and it didn't work well. TMac and Yao were both top 10 players in the league and the Rockets surrounded them with role players (and some good ones, like Battier) meanwhile the 2 stars basically ran the whole offense. This offensive style got the Rockets into the playoffs but never into the second round and both TMac and Yao were so overworked by this style of play that they ran into injuries which eventually ended their careers. Harden has already complained of being "overworked" and the Rox game plan on offense this year has been then to cut down on Harden ISO's. Dwight also is injury prone. No way the Rox repeat their own mistakes. For the sake of winning, Jeremy needs to stay for his playmaking ability; also he has a huge upside if he starts shooting 40% from 3.
     
  4. d12babymamas

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    great post....a good reminder that the coach is an old school coach. you get what you earn and nothing is giving to you.
     
  5. flamingdts

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    What you are saying is absolutely right.

    The Rockets offense just could not get going at all in the first quarter, as evidenced by the score of 25-8 early on.
     
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  6. Spiegel

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    You talk about lin like he is an allstar.Only Lin will takeout the ISO's. What a load of tripe. Only Lin will get Howard going. Bull****e. If anything Harden has been the guy who has looked into the post to feed Dwight the most.Harden was doing a great job running the team against the Pacers wasn't he?
     
  7. psman2

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    Here a few other names for people who don't understand the importance of a sixth man. Lamar Odom, Jason Terry, Ginobili, Toni Kukoc, Robert Horry, Vinnie Johnson, Michael Cooper. And a few from our own backyard Cassell and Elie.

    All of these players played prominent 6 man roles for championship teams in the past 30 years. And everyone one of them could have started for plenty of other teams. However they skills were better utilized coming off the bench for their team, making them a vital reason why these teams won the championships.

    It's the coach's job to try to win all 48 minutes of the basketball game. The bench is not just there to give the starters a breather and not lose the lead. Having a powerful bench is something that many championship squats have in common.
     
  8. Reach

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    Because he never gave credit to his teammates.
     
  9. Rox23

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    Basing your entire offense on ISO plays is not necessarily a bad thing; again, with TMac and Yao it got them into the playoffs. Heck, if you've got a mismatch--exploit it! However this style of play can over the long term take it's toll on the two stars who have to do everything. For example...Harden this year would like to expend more energy on defense; the natural reasoning would be to relieve him of point guard duties so that he can focus just on scoring, and defense.
     
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    Ha ha ha yeah, I just found the right pg to help run the 2nd unite hehehe
     
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  11. Rox23

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    When LIn is not on the court the offense runs through Harden. Isn't that correct? Neither Bev nor Brooks can run an offense. They're spot up shooters. And yes, Harden can more than adequately run the point. The question is...is that the role you want him to have long term?
     
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    They need to bring short shorts back. No homo. Just to see how comfortable the players nowadays will look.
     
  13. Spiegel

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    There is a thousends knifes behind that smiles.
     
  14. d12babymamas

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    dude i get the frustration but don't end up doing what those you detest do. both have great skillsets and both are capable of running the team. let's try to support all are players and not get baited by some of the LOFs.
     
  15. rocketsfan4

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    Nice memories, I remember each of those players well.
     
  16. webattorney

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    I agree. Why not start Bev in Taiwan also?
     
  17. webattorney

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    I think it should be "knives", not "knifes", as well as "thousands" rather than "thousends". :)
     
  18. durvasa

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    I like Beverley, but right now I view Lin as the more complete player, and certainly the better offensive player. But whether he should start or not isn't simply a matter of whether he's the best player at his position. I just don't look at it that way, though I understand that's how most people will see it. If Lin's formidable offensive skills are not taken advantage of by playing mostly alongside Harden, then staggering their minutes could result in a more effective rotation. There are of course arguments to be made to keep Lin as a starter, however, and that's where I lean.
     
  19. webattorney

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    Let Bev start and see other teams adjust. Bev could be good or not so good as a starter. We will see how he plays.
     
  20. Spiegel

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    Harden can Run the offense in patches and it's not just ISO's. You assume Harden runs ISO everytime down the floor which is a fabrication on you're part to bring him down. Plus there will be times when Lin, Harden, Howard Parsons and Probaly DMO will be on the floor where Lin will run the show.


    You're assumption that by making Lin a 6th man that will reduce his role and effectiveness. Far from it, he will have just much effect if not more because he'll have the lion share of thye ball and will still finish games.He'll be more creative then if he started with Harden and Dwight and he will still get his 3-0 minutes a night.


    Gino was wining finals MVP as a 6th man for the Spurs for christsake.
     

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