Okay, having read the whole thread, this is the one I think makes the most sense for the Rox. Kurt contributes a lot of W's wherever he's been. Seasoned, smart, doesn't cry for minutes, can shoot. He's got TX roots also. West is no slouch, maybe has some upside for us. The salary slash is a great bonus too. And no offense, DD, but I really think side-show bob is not what we need. I think he is massively overrated and we'd need him to hit intermediate jumpers in R.A.'s offense. (Kurt could do that!) edit: wait... why do Sonics do this exactly? Novak is a sad version of Wally. and um... what else do they buy with all our spare parts. I am an idiot, but that means you are also hooroo.
Seattle traded away that TE to acquire Kurt Thomas and the 2 first rounders from Phoenix (genius move, by the way, by Seattle).
7 million for Varejao is heavily overpaying if he's only marginally better than Chuck Hayes. I would never do that. 4 mil max. If not, I have Chuck for 2 million.
By the way, Varejao and his agent are asking for $11M per season!!! I think if they were even willing to go DOWN to $8M per that Danny Ferry might begrudgingly accept (and overpay). No way do I want the Rockets to touch Varejao at anything approaching that salary. Especially not when they already have a better player in Scola.
Even Yao only makes somewhere around 13-14. Is the market telling us that Yao is only marginally better than Varejo? This is absolutely insane.
It was a fantasy trade suggestion but I did try to explain in a couple of earlier posts. The jist of it was they get more tradeable assets in Rafer+Reed/Butler as KT is going nowhere, upgrade their starting SF in Snyder over Wilkins, and avoid several malcontents on the team. It's not about winning for them this season it's all about developing Durant and they won't want him in a cancerous environment.
With both May and Morrison going down for the season in Charlotte, I think the following trade would be entirely doable: Kirk Snyder and Justin Reed FOR Othella Harrington, a 2008 2nd round pick and cash The Bobcats are almost $3M under the salary cap, so the salary difference shouldn't matter in this scenario. The Rockets can clear up their roster glut and get a potentially high second rounder in next year's draft. The team could then waive Othella (as much as I liked him back in the day). The cash from Charlotte would partially offset Harrington's salary. The Bobcats are paper thin at the forward positions with their recent injuries. Snyder would give them a third athlete to back up Jason Richardson and Gerald Wallace. Justin Reed just gives them depth and is a throw-in. The only question would be whether Bob Johnson, MJ and the Bobcats want to spend the money.
if they are paper thin at the forward position, why would they want snyder, a guard? but if mj is dumb enough to draft kwame brown and morrison, then maybe he dumb enough to trade for a player he don't need. but the rockets don't need harrington, just take the draft pick and trade exception.
Snyder played more minutes at SF last season than he did at SG. Plus, coach Sam Vincent wants to run more with smaller lineups, so Snyder would fit nicely as a backup 3. Again, Reed gives them more depth at both forward spots. Take a look at how dismal the Bobcats' bench is after injuries to their top two bench forwards: Projected Starters: PG - Raymond Felton SG - Jason Richardson SF - Walter Hermann PF - Gerald Wallace C - Emeka Okafur Bench: G - Jeff McInnis G - Matt Carroll G - Derek Anderson F - Jared Dudley C - Primoz Brezec Dudley, a rookie, is the only backup forward who figures to play. I don't even think the Bobcats envisioned him being in the rotation this season.
They're not going to pay cash and a high 2nd rounder for our fodder. You're talking about them adding payroll, losing a high 2nd rounder AND paying cash for one guy who is admittedly end of the bench material (with 2 years left, to boot) and another who may or may not even be part of the rotation. I think if you flip the 2nd rounder around (we give it to them) and get rid of the cash, it may be doable. Look at the precedent for contract clearing deals this summer. --The Suns had to give 2 first round picks to give away a still productive big man with only one year left on his contract. --The Spurs gave up Scola to be able to get rid of one guaranteed year of 22 year old Jackie Butler. Contract clearing deals do not come easily. Personally, I don't think we'll be able to make a trade outside of possibly getting a 2nd round pick for Novak and/or JL3. If we are able to pull off a move, I would imagine we'd have to either give up a first rounder or give them Head, literally.
Let's say Rockets stay in LT then Reed salary costs double. Rockets salary dump him to the Bobcats but give up 1.4M in cash considerations as a trade sweetener. Bobcats get a player for free. Rockets pay up 1.4M instead of 2.8M.
If you were Daryl Morey (and, for that matter, if you were Michael Jordan), would you do this deal? Rockets trade: Jackie Butler, 2008 1st round pick (lottery-protected) and cash ($1M) FOR Bobcats trade: Their own 2008 2nd round pick If the Rockets are as good as we all think they are, and given the injuries to Charlotte, the draft pick swap should not result in a HUGE dropoff in quality of player the Rockets could get in the draft. Think of it as dropping from, say, 27th overall down to 36th overall. The Bobcats can add another young big man with only one guaranteed year remaining on his deal and with the Rockets picking up about half of his salary. The Rockets can shed salary and save approximately $3.6M plus other revenue sharing bonuses if the team can sneak back under the luxury tax threshhold. Thoughts?
Wow. That's a bold move, BimaThug. You always hate to give up a #1. This has me scratching my head. I wonder what NIKE thinks about it. Jackie's ready to do it. I think the Bobcats would be on it like, well, like I'd be on Scarlett Johansson, given half a chance. (please, let my wife NOT read this!!)
Well, Morey is going to have to make 1-2 "bold moves" in order to save the team some money. Les Alexander has been VERY generous to Rockets fans this off-season. It is understandable that the team make a deal for financial reasons right about now. In addition to Charlotte being under the cap, Cleveland, Boston and Seattle all have trade exceptions that the Rockets can target with guys like Butler, Reed, Novak or JLIII. We'll just see what it takes to get a deal done this weekend.
I really like this trade, but only if the Blazers throw in the rights to Rudy Fernandez. Offer a future 2nd if necessary.
