Then why not the numbers from the first 22 games of last year? I don't buy what you are saying, because if you expect Adelman to perform at the same level as JVG who had 3 years to work with the core players, then in effect, it was not JVG but the players who did everything. You see the irony in your argument?
In other words, if you expect the numbers to remain the same then you are in effect devaluing the importance of a coach. The fact that the team isn't doing as well as last year is because we are adjusting to a new coach and new style. Which validates your point that JVG was a good coach. But to say that he is better than Adelman, well you will have to either compare at least last years first 22 games or wait till the end of this season to compare the numbers you have.
basically the same squad [minus Cato and Cuttino] that Steve Francis drug into the Playoffs against 4 hall of famers Laker Team Rocket River
Do you have any reason to expect that there's a dramatic change? the rockets started last season 14-8,about a .600 winning percentage. They finished last season 52-30, a .600 winning percentage. Why not use numbers from 22 games? A. they're probably the same, B. they're less accurate. This point of yours is nonsensical Do you see the irony in your argument that Adelman is taking the same players to less satisfactory results? Actually that is not irony, that is just the truth. Case in point being last night.
Updated: 07/08 (32 games) PACE: 90.0 - 18th overall OFFENSIVE EFFICIENCY 104.5 - 20th overall (per 100 pos.) DEFENSIVE EFFICIENCY 104.0 - 6th overall 06/07 PACE: 89.3 - 22nd overall OFFENSIVE EFFICIENCY 108.3 - 14th overall DEFENSIVE EFFICIENCY 101.6 -3rd overall Numbers courtesy of knickerblogger.
So our defensive efficiency has gotten worse rankings over the last ten games but the offense hasn't. Interesting. I would have said both had improved a bit, which they have on offense, but league wide it looks like everyone else did on offense as well so we didn't improve our rankings there. And in fact our pace has slowed down rather than sped up. Thanks for posting the update on this.
Sam, Is there any way to get the numbers for the last couple of weeks - basically with Tmac out. I am curious as to how our pace is without him, and also defense etc. It would be nice to compare and contrast the team with and without Tmac - other than the obvious......more Losses. Thanks, DD
You know I really don't blame Adelman. I think he is good for what he does. I don't like the idea of changing the offense to not run through Yao in the post. He had made too much progress and was starting to be as dominant down low as Shaquille used to be. The offense should play half court limit possession and run through Yao with good spacing and effective play from the perimeter we would be more efficient on offense. I don't think this is Adelman's fault, I think like most good coaches his strength is tied to his system. I believe Van Gundy was a better fit for the current roster even though the bench needed strengthening, the PF and PG spot needed improvement. The defensive system in place is OK, but the defensive effort isn't the same. At times the team looks good running the offense and when shots are falling they are tough, but you could say that about more than 1/2 the NBA teams who usually look good when they are shooting a high percentage. We have not been a mentally tough team for a few years due to Yao's growth and TMac's make up and the fact we don't have a third quality starter who is mentally strong. Van Gundy compensated for this by holding the team accountable and motivating the star players to he max. I am quite sure in fantasy land that last seasons team would kick this season team's bottom. The chemistry is coming around some as they are learning the offense but I don't think there is enough defensive fortitude to carry the team. I still believe that the team has to rebuild. TMac and Yao can deliver with the right supporting cast but I think RA's system is not what Yao needs. I still see us moving in the direction of Divacs play and that is not what Yao should be doing and prepared for in a game seven playoff series. Yao should be the best low post threat in the league and able to carry the team by taking charge at the end of games. This is how he was being developed and now the direction has changed for him.. Like Yao said a few months back "I feel like I have been traded to a new team"
i think it was a mistake from the get go. This team has regressed, with more talent. This team was poised to win now and not have to wait a couple of years to get the "right" players in and "learn"" the offense. yeah, and then went on to win 10-5 and have one of the best records in the NBA after january. And did i mention with a less talented team? Oh, DD I just love your blind bashing of JVG and the blind support of Adelman...no bias at all. bottom line, rockets fans shouldnt have to "wait" for the players to get the "new system". There was a sound and proven system in place. The one area of blatant weakness was personnel, which was addressed. We all know the firing, like mentioned before, was done out of emotion and not logic or reason. Even if JVG had to go, it made more since to promote within, like Thibs rather than revamp.
Why anyone would post a JVG reminder after the Boston game is a mystery to me. That game was the best effort by a Rockets team I've seen in years. JVG had his chances in Houston, he blew it. He overhauled our roster 3 times, couldnt get us out of 1st round. Lets just please move on and give Adleman some time.....
True, but against a team 27-3, on the road, bad officiating, without TMAC.....I also dont usually believe in moral vicories, but if ever there was one, this would be it.....
For fans of pretty pictures, like me, here's how our offensive and defensive efficiency has gone throughout the season using "last 4 games" moving average. Dashed lines correspond to season offensive and defensive ratings, and the boxes correspond to games where T-Mac or Rafer didn't play due to injury:
i get your point and agree to a certain extent...but they need to start getting Ws in the W column and not the Moral W one time is ticking and they don't have much time to fool around. Plus, i was really hoping, and expecting, for this team to get a top 4 seed, and maybe even push for a 2 or 3, rather than a 6th (at best) or 7/8...which is almost surely a first round loss
Sam, you still haven't answered the issue that JVG had 3 years working with the core of the 06-07 team, while Adelman only had a little more than 3 months. In other words, the most frequently cited "excuse" about the bad performance is "adjustment." Your numbers do not address that.
^^ proof youre as good as your last game. that was the best effort in YEARS ? why are people around here getting so excited about games we have lost ? jeez the fact the game was close against boston means absolutely nothing. i still have hope for this team when t-mac gets back. if rafer and bonzi stay aggressive and consistent then i say we move back into playoff picture even if portland, NO, LA and GS continue to play well, we can be THAT good. i just really hope we dont trade t-mac for any of those bums in chicago or something.
Durvasa, can I get a copy of the spreadsheet that you used for creating this? or could you tell me how to set it up on my own? I'd like to look at the numbers side by side like that. If you like you can send me an email through the site here instead of posting it in the thread.
