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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. astros123

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    I think you're misunderstanding the current system. There's a quota of 40-60k assylm seekers monthly they are processing legally through the app in Mexico. They are bringing in plenty of people LEGALLY.
     
  2. rocketsjudoka

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    As stated earlier that’s not nearly enough to match the supply and demand curve regarding both those who want to come in and those who are willing to hire them.

    Also as another poster noted the long term trend for this country is a decline in the native born population. We’ve see that take a toll on other countries. We can solve that by bringing in many new people.
     
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  3. Xopher

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    Did you watch last night? Trump said multiple times he completed the wall. I'm so confused. Was Trump right or is this tweet correct?
     
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  4. Amiga

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    Besides being uninformed and not understanding that the Biden admin will be tougher on border control after the end of Title 42...

    The Republican proposal to cut $4 billion in CBP funding and reduce the number of customs and border patrol officers by 2,400 is going to be great for migrants.

    https://www.thirdway.org/memo/the-republican-debt-limit-plan-will-devastate-public-safety

    What These Cuts Mean for Law Enforcement
    The Republican budget’s effect on sworn law enforcement could result in the loss of 28,500 officers that are employed by the federal government. These devastating budget cuts would gut up to $10 billion from federal law enforcement funding.

    • The Federal Bureau of Investigations would see a budget cut of $2.8 billion, resulting in the loss of 11,000 agents, analysts, and staff.5
    • The Drug Enforcement Agency would see a budget cut of $692 million, resulting in the loss of 1,600 officers.6
    • Customs and Border Patrol would see a budget cut of $4 billion, resulting in the loss of 2,400 officers.7
    • The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives would see a budget cut of $385 million dollars, resulting in the loss of 500 officers.8
    • The Transportation Safety Administration would see a budget cut of $2 billion dollars, resulting in the loss of 12,400 officers.9
    • The Capitol Police would see a budget cut of $162 million dollars, resulting in the loss of 600 sworn officers.10
    • Federal support to local law enforcement through Byrne grants would decrease by an average of $30,000 per department, stifling law enforcement and justice proceedings in every state.11
     
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  5. Amiga

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    As we see repeatedly, Republicans have zero interest in solving immigration. It's too useful as a political pull on uninformed folks to solve.
     
  6. Xerobull

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    I am in the wrong line of work. That’s an annual salary of $1,666,666 each.
     
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  7. Commodore

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    And why are they bringing up US funding? Mexico was supposed to pay for the Wall.
     
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  9. Astrodome

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    I think the folks that ended up with court dates after 2025 should have their paperwork laminated to help ensure the documents stay dry. Especially the ones that are due in court in 2035.

     
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  12. Amiga

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    The avg backlog is ~5 years. The solution to this isn’t hard - more funding to reduce immigration processing (judges, officials, facilities, …). Republican keeps pointing out the problems that have lasted for decade but won’t support any solution.
     
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  13. Amiga

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    same comment as above

    decade old problem that has a solution
     
  14. astros123

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    These are people with PRE determined clearance through the DHS app. These folks have been screened. This is the issue with reporting on the border. The only folks who are reporting are right wing zealots and MAGAts who want to spew conspiracies and disinformation. Left wing reporters don't care enough about the border so folks like @Commodore just spew right wing disinformation

     
  15. Commodore

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    clearance for what?
     
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    GOP is just trying to sabotage.
     
  17. astros123

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    Let me explain the current process to you as your right wing grifters dont care for your knowledge. I think you're smarter than that hopefully.

    1. If you are an assylm and you want to seek refugee DHS has created an app and application where you have to apply legally. They've opened up processing centers in Mexico, Colombia, and in Panama.

    2. You go on this app or center and you give the us government all your information. They background check you and run your information to see if you're qualified and clean enough to come into the nation.

    3. Once the US government runs your information and you're good they give you a date and a place to go and they will bring you into the country legally at a processing center.

    4. This was done to get rid of any border surges. If you want to seek assylm now under bidens new rule YOU HAVE TO APPLY ON THE APP. There are no exceptions. If you do not apply on the app or at a processing center you will be deported right away under the new rule.

    5. If you have been caught trying enter the country without an approval status then you will be thrown in jail now if its more than once. This criminlization never occured before any other POTUS.

    6. The issue is smugglers and cartels brainwash migrants into telling them theres safe passage nd pocket the money when in reality there is no way across the border.

    7. the cartels and smugglers show them right wing videos that you spew to tell them how the border is open so they can scam them. When you spew your propoganda the only people you are helping are the cartels and bad people.
     
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    The funny thing is under Trumps old assylm rules these folks qualified for assylm......under bidens new rule hes added cubans, venezulans, haitians as not eligible for special status....lol bidens rules are literally more tougher than Trumps. Do you maga not understand the damn rules?!

    All you MAGA should be thanking Biden. Its utterly insane how naive and illiterate the right is on this topic. They have no idea what the rules are

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/title-42-block-nicaraguans-cubans-haitians-rcna64418
     
  19. astros123

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    They're not sabotaging but actively fear mongering and spreading disinformation. They keep showing these folks being apprended or waiting at border but they never tell you that ALL these folks will be deported under bidens rule. They leave that part out so the viewer can think that we're being invaded. Its a disgusting and sick tactic that helps spread fear.

    Why do you think we have so many mass shootings? look at what our media does to folks like @Commodore @AroundTheWorld with nothing but utter disinformation and lies. They stoke up fear with these people. Its a sad sad sad state of affairs
     
  20. Commodore

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    The problem is millions claiming "asylum" and being immediately allowed entry, even before the dubious claims are adjudicated.

    The fact that it's been streamlined with an app is worse, not better.

    You're applauding that the invasion has been automated by our own government.
     

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