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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. mtbrays

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    This is not a conservative position.
     
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  2. Rileydog

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    Not “we”. Not “you”.

    The word you are looking for is “they”.
     
  3. Salvy

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    Turns out immigration is essential to our economy....
     
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  4. dmoneybangbang

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    Running a red light is an illegal non violent crime. So what's your point? That you can't logically and intelligently weigh the pros and cons of what to do with non violent illegal aliens?

    So lets continue to think about this....

    Getting rid of millions of people mean more houses, but less people buying food, buying services, buying products, buying cars, doing the jobs the natives don't want to do, etc. When there's less economic activity, businesses don't expand, don't hire more which, and go out of business if the economic activity reaches that point.

    On the government side, while illegals don't pay federal taxes they pay state and local taxes. Here in Texas, everyone pays a property tax whether you rent or own and everyone pays sales tax. Less people mean less tax revenue so less services. But hey.... Texas loves toll roads so maybe Texas can make up the loss revenue by charging more fees.

    So the MAGA mindset is really one of cutting your nose to spite your face..... Not only did dumb ass MAGA think tariffs weren't a nation sales tax, you also want to reduce economic activity by deporting millions.

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  5. Rileydog

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    Demonstrably false. Illegal immigrants are a net economic positive to this country. You must be relatively new to this thread or topic. The agriculture, hospitality, restaurant and construction industries are built on the exploitation of cheap illegal alien labor. And the entire country, including you, get the benefit of lower costs as a result. They pay tax. They buy goods and services.

    Frankly, the vast majority of illegal alien immigrants are hard working people, far harder working than the lazy low wage earners who can’t or won’t do these jobs. Earlier this year, farmers were losing their usual illegal immigrant labor because of fear of deportation. They hired US citizen workers and they couldn’t do the job and quit. Why do you think Trump called off the deportation of illegal immigrants supporting these industries? He knows they are a net positive to this country.

    No question, illegal immigrants are here illegally. Yup, they broke the law. They’re guilty of trying to get to a better situation in life, and broke the law in doing it. Yet as a people, they are far more admirable than the low wage earners complaining about them.

    MAGA and Trumpers say all these brown people are murderers and rapists, when the overwhelming majority of them are just good hard working people. There are ways to enforce immigration laws that do not include dehumanizing them and cruelty. But cruelty and terror is the point. Because MAGA and Trumpers believe the brown people are sub human.
     
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  6. Rileydog

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    We’ve had this argument and you lost. Trump won’t deport the illegals on which agriculture, hospitality, restaurants and construction is built because he knows we cannot survive as a nation without them.
     
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  7. raining threes

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    1. Tired argument, Tell Kate/Jocelyn/Laken's etc... families illegals are non violent.
    2. Let's talk about the costs illegals place on medical care/education/justice system/ welfare system etc.... The bad far outweighs the good IMHO. But lets send them back and find out who's correct. Then bring back the ones that we want in this country and that contribute to society as a whole.
    3. I'm willing to pay more, although the cost should be offset by lower medical cost/ property taxes etc... that are currently being spent housing/feeding/educating people who by law shouldn't be in this country to begin with.
    4. Have the tariffs affected your life in any way? I'm more than willing to pay $52.00 for a $50.00 pair of sneakers to bring money/manufacturing/jobs etc.. back to this country. Obviously you being a very selfish, self righteous person think differently and that's OK, because Trump thinks like I do on this topic. I guees you are for 80% of the drugs we use being made in China while we wait for China to unleash another plague on the world? I dont believe you're this selfish or dumb of a person.
     
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  8. astros123

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    Its hilarious how MAGA keep gas lighting everyone that the tariffs have somehow brought back manufacturing when the sector has fallen off a cliff since April bcz the entire world hates us

    They lie to your face with no shame. Its just insane how utterly brainwashed these individuals are. No corporations is going to spend billions onshoring their supply chain over 20-30% tariffs. Nobody

     
  9. dmoneybangbang

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    Tired argument..... trotting out victims is sick considering the natives are more violent and commit more crimes per capita.

    Sure lets talk about it..... again illegal aliens pay state and local taxes. Here in Texas their property and sales taxes contribute to schools, hospitals, court system, etc. You are basically using the same tired argument you conservatives have you used against welfare for citizens.

    So which ones are the good ones? In all likelihood your forebearers were poor peasants from a shi*thole country. Would you have let your own family in had you not known they were your kin?

    Well I'm not willingly to pay higher prices. So if we are getting less state and local revenue, you actually think property taxes would decrease? Oof....

    Why did you MAGAs lie about tariffs being paid by consumers? Lie about deporting only violent illegal aliens? Feels like policies based on lies don't do very well.

    Sure, I am paying more for groceries and products. I expect to pay even more for the rest of September and US consumer sentiment mirrors my observations.

    No, I just prefer intelligent policies instead of implementing a national sales tax to bring back clothing manufacturing..... Which there is no guarantee it will actually do.

    I don't believe you are so selfish and dumb to not know we had a policy of bringing strategic industries back to the US under the previous administration. You brought up sneakers and clothing manufacturing for whatever stupid reason and now you are talking about China?
     
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    So 12 is the number of citizens that you are okay deporting?
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    True but not in the way you think
     
  13. tinman

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    Legal immigration is great
    Illegal
    a word the woke people erased from the vocabulary is not

    @glynch
    @Os Trigonum
     
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  14. dmoneybangbang

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    You also realize employers hiring illegals is against the law..... where are all the business owners being arrested?
     
  15. tinman

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    Dude the woke mind virus has infected people
    That’s what’s going on
    @Salvy
    @ROXRAN

    It’s like people shooting airballs and these people think it’s racism that caused the ball to miss
    @Os Trigonum
     
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  16. tinman

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    They need to deport the woke white people who wave Palestine flags to Gaza

    it’s not like the people in Gaza suddenly started waiving rainbow colored flags
    Or get mad at Snoop Dogg for not wanting his grandkids to learn about lesbians in a Toy Story cartoon
    @pgabriel
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    Now these people are mad they we are blowing up cartel boats

    Why are they mad?
    Simple , those drugs were meant for democrats
     
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  17. raining threes

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    I've always said there are going to be mistakes made. So far there have apparently been 12 which is a really low number and I'm sure those mistakes have been corrected.
     
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  18. tinman

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    Every profession has mistakes
    A while back one of my coworkers had bad eye surgery and it was at the place considered the country’s top. He has to have like multiple surgeries to salvage his eye sight
     

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