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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. JHarden713

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    Yep, but I guess since USA is the country of "immigrants", it shouldn't have borders, legal process of migration etc. France would throw you into the seeking asylum camp, where most of them stay for years (if they refuse to go back to their countries), where their movement is limited (within the camp), you can't just roam the streets of Paris, if you're there illegally. Germany was really strick as well, but somehow if the United States is trying to do the same, its labeled racist or against human rights or w/e terminology they're using.
     
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    Who said there shouldn’t be borders and security? That is a perpetual lie that the GOP and FOX news keep seeping into your brain.
     
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    Meanwhile, in Ohio…. I don’t hear the dogebags complaining about this flag…

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  4. Commodore

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    government officials have become comfortable leaking anything they want without consequence, even things that can get people killed like law enforcement operational plans


     
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    Does anyone else find it ironic that we are hell bent on sending away the "brown" folks, but we will now bring in white folks from S Africa because there being mistreated............maga folks dont want anyone other than white folks.
     
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    She posted too many selfies breh
     
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    LMAO ****ing treason lol.

    America is cooked

    The concept of ICE raids that have ride alongs with celebrity psychologist grifters like Dr. Phill for publicity and propaganda purposes being "leaked" is funny as hell.

    The ICE raids were telegraphed so easily because the Trump admin wanted to make the ICE raids a TV spectacle. The entire purpose of the ice raids was to create video clips for propaganda purposes.

    Sorry but raids that have celebrity ride alongs aren't leaked.
     
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    Show the proof. What proof is there they originated from the FBI?
     
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    Here is what actual good local news journalism from a sincere standpoint of investigative journalism looks like:



    This dude is impressive for local news talent.
     
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    The dudes in the video I linked that are kitted out as if they are about to do a helo raid in Mogadishu to make sure Juan the strawberry picking under minimum wage illegal immigrant worker knows their place is so pathetic.

    But I understand that mindset these people have when they kit themselves out like this. Their mindset is that of a Hollywood action movie. It gives dopamine hits when you feel like some Ricky recon bad ass.

    Do people remember when they were kids and played cowboys and Indians. It's the same energy for these ICE agents. That's the child like mindset these type of people have.
     
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    The pope rebukes Trump over migrant deportations and refutes VP Vance's theology


    The pope is the second high-ranking Catholic leader to criticize Vance, who is Catholic.

    In a strongly worded letter to U.S. Catholic bishops, Francis wrote that it's important for Catholics to disagree with any measure that identifies the illegal status of some migrants with criminality.

    Francis also said that deporting people — who in many cases have left their own land for reasons of extreme poverty, exploitation and persecution — "damages the dignity of many men and women, and of entire families, and places them in a state of particular vulnerability and defenselessness."

    The letter also appears to reply to remarks by Vice President Vance in which he said people should care for their family, communities and country before caring for others.

    Francis instead wrote that people should meditate on love that builds a fraternity open to all, without exception.

    "Christian love is not a concentric expansion of interests that little by little extend to other persons and groups," the pope writes.

    After Vance accused the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops of resettling immigrants to receive federal funding, New York Cardinal Timothy Dolan called the vice president's remarks "scurrilous" and "nasty."

    "You want to come look at our audits, which are scrupulously done? You think we make money caring for the immigrants? We're losing it hand over fist. … We're not in a moneymaking business," Dolan said.

    https://www.npr.org/2025/02/11/g-s1...t-deportations-and-refutes-vp-vances-theology
     
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    can't vouch for any of this; but I trust that experts here can provide us with their keen insights about why this author is a Bad Person Who Is Not to Be Trusted.

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/10/opinion/how-fema-spending-on-migrants-exploded-under-biden/

    How FEMA spending on migrants exploded under Biden
    By Andrew Arthur
    Published Feb. 10, 2025, 7:46 p.m. ET

    Elon Musk is targeting what he says is out-of-control spending by the Federal Emergency Management Agency on migrants.

    He has plenty of places to start. Federal spending on migrants skyrocketed under President Joe Biden, often in obscure ways.

    The current crisis started in 2019, when President Trump — then in his first term — asked Congress for additional money to handle the influx of migrant children.

    Democrats, who falsely claimed Trump was “caging kids,” took their time giving him the money to help. In summer 2019, $30 million was added to FEMA’s Emergency Food and Shelter Program.

    Trump asked for EFSP to be ended in his FY 2020 and FY 2021 budget requests as duplicative of other federal activities, but as Ronald Reagan explained, “a government bureau is the nearest thing to eternal life we’ll ever see on this earth.”

    Money pit
    After taking office, President Biden pushed for legislation called the American Rescue Plan.

    ARP appropriated $400 million for EFSP, plus an additional $110 million for “humanitarian relief,” which became a separate line item, EFSP-H.

    Already a money pit, this is where things start getting ridiculous.

    With millions of migrants flooding over the border, by 2023 the ESFP-H line item had morphed into the FEMA Shelter and Services Program. As a fact sheet explained:

    “SSP bolsters the capacity of states, localities, tribes and nonprofit organizations to receive noncitizens after they have been processed by DHS. It also ensures appropriate coordination with and support for state, local and community leaders to help mitigate increased impacts to their communities.”

    Note the use of “mitigate” and “impacts” in that passage, and couple it with the fact that this is administered by the emergency agency, and you’ll realize it’s all a tacit admission that the Biden-Harris migrant surge has been a disaster, both for the country as a whole and for the cities and states that are struggling to keep up.

    Some $363.8 million was made available for SSP in FY 2023, broken up into two tranches, one of more than $291 million and a second of $77.3 million-plus.

    Beginning in April 2024, that was increased to $640.9 million, administered through two separate programs.

    Monstrous growth

    Nearly all of that money is headed to states (Arizona alone received $19 million in FY 2024), cities (Los Angeles got more than $21 million in last fiscal year), and counties (El Paso hauled in $16.69 million for FY 2024), who were happy to get another federal gusher.

    When you hear critics say that the Biden-Harris FEMA has “spent more than $1.4 billion since the fall of 2022 to address the migrant crisis,” you’ll know where the figures are coming from.

    What began as a $30 million allocation to solve a temporary problem in 2019 now has its own program, its own bureaucracy and its own $640 million budget.

    This monster must be tamed.

    Andrew Arthur is the fellow in law and policy at the Center for Immigration Studies.


     
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    She too skinny to be a d&d poster
     
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    things are getting serious.png
     
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