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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. SuraGotMadHops

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    It could help make us safer, that's good enough for me.
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    Dark Brandon had open borders the past 4 years at least according to people like you.

    If 718 million poor people wanted to come here then by your logic they would have already.

    Don't be a stupid person
     
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  3. fchowd0311

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    Statistically it will make us less safe.

    We live in an economy where almost anyone here at 2 am and has the munchies can go to a convenience store within a 5 mile radius that is fully staffed and fully shelved. This is not normal for human civilization. This type of economy aka "the treat economy" requires a certain birth rate to sustain. American women have a lower birth rate than required to sustain such an economy. So we replace that deficit with migrant labor.

    And the migrant labor coming in has a lower violent crime rate than American born citizens which means if you replace this migrant labor pool with new Americans born and raised you'd increase the crime rate.
     
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  4. Redfish81

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    How do you know I don't sell jet fuel to the military? Planes full of immigrants equals $$$$$
     
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  6. HP3

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    Im fine where it is currently. I dont have that number on hand. Once there are data driven arugments that immigration is negatively affecting the lives of U.S citizens, then we can have a conversation.

    As of today, illegal immigration is not an issue i care about at all. Because truthfully its not important. And it should not be important to you either, do you know why? Because it really doesnt affect either of us and there are more pressing issues at hand.
     
  7. HP3

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    It wont dude, it will ruin the economy. Which will INCREASE more crime. We need a lot of those people.

    They also commit crime at a much lower rate than U.S citizens. It wont fix things, it wont make your life better, I promise you.
     
  8. HP3

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    Well do you lol?

    In any case, even if you do, you are a minority in this case, you're interests dont align with middle class America.
     
  9. SuraGotMadHops

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    Ah yes, source: "trust me bro" ....tried and true.
     
  10. droxford

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    If this were true, then you would also feel that people who have entered this country illegally (above that designated cap), should be deported to their nation of origin or citizenship. You clearly don't feel that way, so clearly this statement from you is not true.

    If you didn't care about it all, you wouldn't be posting multiple times about it in this thread.
    When you say "it's not important".. well, clearly the majority of American's completely disagree with you.
    It absolutely affects me.
    Yes, there are other important issues that we face, but this one is not unimportant or insignificant.
     
  11. HP3

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    There's loads of evidence out there that it wont, that this mass deportation is a bad idea and so are these tariffs.

    Do you really believe deporting a bunch of people will make the wealthy give a **** about people like you or I? No.

    Its like trickle down economics, that was just a lie bro.

    If you just listen to what I'm saying, and we all get on the same page, we can enact some real change for the good of us all.
     
  12. HP3

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    They already are dude. Do you think Biden isnt doing deportation or controlling the border? He is. And again Im telling you, it has not affected most people that live here.Its not an important issue.

    I only care because YOU ALL CARE. Im trying to have a dialogue with you all.

    America cares about the economy, illegal immigration is a talking point that really only right wingers care about.
     
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    LOL... Hey dude.. Biden isn't doing a g0ddamn thing right now. But I get it - you think it's not important.

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    Their home countries putting out all the stops to not take them back either. Sad isn't it

     
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    if you sell jet fuel to the military, you are presumably rich already

    deportations is not gonna make you significantly richer than what you are already
     
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    With all due respect do the wealthy give a turd about us at present?

    I have given my thought on immigration above.

    Immigration is a true double edged sword.
    Many have said immigrants should get a fair wage.
    But if we give a fair wage it's the same as hiring Johnny Caucasian.
    The price will be the same.
    Sadly the immigrants at current wage are the only way to keep prices down.
    The entire Agricultural business model factors in depressed pay for laborers

    Am I wrong?
    I think all workers should get a fair wage.
    I can absorb the cost, but many cannot.
    On a humorous side my wife barely eats veggies so I buy a steamer pack of creamed spinach and call it a day.
     
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    These illegals need to get on up

    @basso
     
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  18. SuraGotMadHops

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    WTF are you blathering about?? Illegal immigrants with criminal records are being deported, what the living hell does that have to do with the wealthy caring about you or I??

    Libtards have an uncanny ability to get from here from there on unrelated nonsensical points like nothing I've ever seen. Just a few posts earlier you injected you not hating all conservative veterans. Where the hell is your scrambled ass brain??
     
  19. fchowd0311

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    Brother when will Trump solve the Haitian problem an our dogs and cats are safe?

    Donald Trump also promised me 20 million deportations during his campaign about 500 separate times.

    Do 20 million migrants have violent criminal records?
     
  20. HP3

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    Well yea because he's not president. Deportations arent going to do anything for you. Its not gonna make the economy better. Its not gonna fix your life.
     

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