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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    And again you generalizing and now you're even generalizing to Cubans yet downplaying it because of confirmation bias towards Cubans.

    You really don't understand how dangerous this is..
     
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  2. AroundTheWorld

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    No, I am just quoting articles and facts.

    Edit: Just read that about 70 % of Cubans are estimated to practice some form of Santeria (I did not know that), but that the percentage of them practicing animal sacrifice appears lower than that of Haitians practicing it.

    I guess it all has roots in Africa.

    So you would like to suppress facts because it is "dangerous" to state them. OK.
     
  3. deb4rockets

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    When a mixed blood immigrant spews racial hate towards other immigrants he feels he is better than them. He loves using broad assumptions about any culture other than his living in our country.

    Isn't that guy part Korean? Should we be as racist as him and say he's a threat to our pets because In South Korea, they eat cat soup, and dog meat is even more popular? Hide your cat's and dogs in Florida!!!!!
    Should we assume that since he's part German he's thinks Jews deserved to be gassed to death and tortured, and he still believes they are vile disgusting animals? Generalizations and hatred towards any race or culture as a whole are toxic.

    Millions of white men who have sexually abused their little girls, or raped women over the years, but that doesn't mean all white men are rapists and pedos. It's just a mentality that unfortunately those racist types pass on to their kids. They mold their little minds in a sick way, and it's sad.
     
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  4. Xopher

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    Where does it say they eat cats and dogs?
     
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  5. AroundTheWorld

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    What racial hate? What is the basis for that statement?

    The only "racist" statement is your "mixed blood" comment.
     
  6. deb4rockets

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    Take your racist dog whistles to someone else. I said that because you are one of the biggest hate spewing right wingers on here sharing your crap about immigrants. You are an immigrant, and you are no more American than the people you spew hatred towards fool. This entire country, except for Native Americans came from other countries. If you don't like it, then leave. Good luck finding a country anywhere in the world without immigrants.
     
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  7. FranchiseBlade

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    Laughable: Your attempt to defend to false claims that were designed to cause people to fear and mistrust immigrants has morphed into making biased generalizations against leftists who have called you out for defending the false claims.

    Extra humorous is that are trying to use voodoo in the scare tactics.

    I don't think you're old enough to have lived here in the 50s. But the things you harp on are like bad 50s movies and the red scare.

    Are you trying to create a Trader Jorge type of comic persona?
     
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  8. AroundTheWorld

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    Again, I never even mentioned race.

    On the other hand, you said "mixed blood".

    You are the actual racist.
     
  9. AroundTheWorld

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    Also, I didn't make assumptions - I researched websites, etc., and posted some facts.

    I had never looked into this topic much - I was unaware that 50-95 % of Haitians practice Voodoo, and that animal sacrifice is an essential part of it.

    I was also not aware that such a high percentage of Cubans practice Santeria, which appears to be something similar.

    I bet most of you weren't aware of that either.

    By the way, that doesn't mean that one should be prejudiced against Cubans or Haitians as human beings.

    But what I conclude from it is that it would be illogical to assume that if such a high percentage of people from a country follow these practices, that you would not see a high percentage of them still doing that after moving their residence to another country.

    And one can certainly say, hey, it's part of their culture, respect it.

    But I can also see how seeing it for the first time in person (in a park or whatever) can be shocking to some people.

    Here is a master thesis of an FIU student about Santeria Ritual Sacrificial Practices in Miami. I have only scanned it, not read every word of it, obviously, but if you search for the word "dog" in it, you will find out that in Nigeria and Cuba, apparently, dogs are the favourite animal to be sacrificed.

    https://digitalcommons.fiu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=4977&context=etd

    Since someone brought up Korea:

    I went there for the first time when I was 10, on a summer holiday. I did go to the countryside with my parents (where my mother was from), and I did see a certain breed of dogs, and my mother mentioned that these are dogs used for eating. My 10-year old self found it totally shocking, because I had only ever known dogs as pets. But yeah, who am I to judge. We kill and eat other animals. That said, if some Koreans had been known to kill and eat dogs in Germany, this would have caused backlash and ridicule, I assume - rightly or wrongly.

    Should it therefore have been considered racist to mention that Koreans (and Chinese), at least at the time, did eat dogs?

    I don't think so. It was (maybe is, I haven't researched) just a fact.
     
  10. Jugdish

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    Where's the outrage over Catholics eating literal human flesh and blood every Sunday?
     
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    I guess part of the fundamental disagreement here is:

    The leftists say: "Even if it happens, don't talk about it, because it could make people turn against other people (immigrants, in this case). If you do talk about it, you are a racist."

    I say: "I would like to research it and know the facts. Stating facts in itself isn't racist. Suppressing them because "they could make people look bad" is wrong. This has been tried with crime statistics - obscuring and hiding much higher rates of crime of certain immigrant/cultural/religious groups in certain crimes when the lived reality of people tells them they are being lied to actually creates more racism, not less."
     
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    If this were actually happening, there should be outrage. But it doesn't, so there is no outrage.
     
  13. Jugdish

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    According to the Church, it's happening.
     
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    For a candidate that draws energy from white nationalists the way a downed Hulk Hogan draws energy from his Hulkamaniacs, these stories of Haitians killing neighborhood animals are so perfect. They're black and they're immigrants? Score!
     
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    The concept of animal sacrifices is within Abrahamic regions, specially Judaism and Islam.

    To go from "a religion has an aspect of animal sacrifices" to

    "Hatian immigrants are stealing American pets and eating them" is a dousey of a leap only a bigot and racist would make

    This has always been a trend with you. Trump says unhinged things. The moment he says it you agree it's unhinged and then the right wing settles in to doubling down on the claim and you oblige and double down yourself because yes



    You are a bigot. A racist. That is what you are. And you know you are doing this in bad faith.
     
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    I can confirm that it's only tiny wafers with a very bland taste.
     
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    It would be racist or bigoted to say that Korean immigrants are stealing American pets and eating them.

    I've noticed this about your type(people who learn about the world through Tweets) when it comes to absurd claims from right wing politicians. They say something unhinged like "immigrants are stealing our pets and eating them" and then try to find somewhere in this planet a person of color eating a cat or dog and claim that it's somewhat true when the claim is immigrants in America are stealing American pets and eating them.

    Congrats you found some people on this planet that way dogs and cats. Now find me evidence of immigrants stealing pets and eating them in America. I'll even just ask for one news report of t happening even though the nature of claim is that there is a SYSTEMIC issue of immigrants eating pets which means you really need to show statistical data of pet thefts by immigrants. But you can't even find a single story of one incident let alone statisical data.
     
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    to be fair, a walk through the book store at the Frankfurt airport provides ample evidence.
     
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