The moderators were more than fair. They gave Trump to come back from crazy. Trump: Haitian immigrants are eating people's dogs and cats. Moderators gave him a chance to change his crazy answer. Moderators: We've called the police and they say that isn't happening. Trump: I've seen it on TV. Trump supporters: The moderators were unfair for fact checking Trump and not Harris. Reality - Trump could have backed off of the crazy ledge when the moderators gave him a chance to retract it. The moderators did him a favor. They weren't being unfair by saying it wasn't true. Trump neglected to accept the favor they offered him. To paraphrase Jordan Klepper - did you expect the moderators to say, "Oh Haitian immigrants are eating people's cats and dogs? Thank you. Let's move on to foreign policy." That would have been a crappy job of moderating. Don't blame ABC because your candidate tried to claim Hatian immigrants are eating dogs and cats and they gave him a chance to correct it. That isn't the fault of ABC or the moderators.
And what if some did? I don't think it should have been the topic of a debate like this, but one government official saying no doesn't mean there can't have been instances of it. It's actually an interesting example of leftist belief in authoritarianism. "The government/the party said it didn't happen, so it didn't happen."
The immigrants didn't. The entire public that isn't supporting Trump has accepted that. If you'd like to keep trying to make a case that it did, see where it gets you. I bet it's the same place Trump found himself after the debate.
I mean, I really don't care, and I don't think it should be the center of the debate, but you are claiming that something never happened when you have no way of knowing that that is true.
The origins of the falsehood have already been exposed and it has been debunked. You are free to try and salvage that unhinged fantasy if you like.
And we have an example of what has become Rightwing alarmism. Finding some unverified reports and / or a report that isn’t actually relevant and blowing it up.
I saw in the Internet ther was this baseball player from the Caribbean who was sacrificing chickens to a voodoo god. I saw it on the Internet so it has to be true!
Typical leftist progression: It isn't happening. Ok it is happening but it's not happening enough to really be a problem. It's happening, but it's a good thing. You are a culturally insensitive bigot if you are against it happening. You guys are still at stage 1 in this case.
@basso posted a tweet with the same thing so we can add lack of original thinking. I’ll give same reply I did to him. Next week there isn’t going to be a lot of actual verifiable reports of Haitians eating cats and dogs. In fact the only verified report of someone eating a cat in Ohio was an American citizen in Canton.
This is another example of what I call anti critical thinking. It relying upon a flaw in inductive reason by going from the specific to the generalization. For example if I did a search on Google and found that Berlin has a lot of sex clubs where S&M is practiced and then found some tweets of a German tourist doing S&M in the US I could make the claim that most Germans are into S&M and are doing it in the US. That would be a generalization based on inductive logic but is inherently flawed given that it is a claim based on a very limited knowledge base. It is further flawed if I had previously expressed a bias against Germans which would mean it’s also confirmation bias.
This is an animal protection activist group's website that predates the current controversy, so pretty sure it is not some "MAGA CONSPIRACY SITE". https://woundedpawproject.org/animal-sacrifice-and-religious-freedom/ very graphic pictures Voodoo Voodoo is a religion that originated in Haiti and animal sacrifice is also a central part of this faith. Chickens, goats, pigs, dogs, and even turtles are sacrificed during religious ceremonies. The animal’s blood is used to “seal deals” with the spirits, and it is also believed to bring good luck. The animal’s carcass is then often buried or burned as part of the ritual. As with Santeria, Voodoo practitioners believe that the animal must struggle during the sacrifice for the ritual to be effective. This leads to many animal torture methods being used, such as beating them or slamming their heads into objects until they die.
Somewhere between stage 2 and stage 3 now, I see. https://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/20/...brought,often in conjunction with Catholicism. The slave revolt that brought Haiti independence indeed relied on voodoo, the New World version of ancestral African faiths. To this day, by various scholarly estimates, 50 percent to 95 percent of Haitians practice at least elements of voodoo, often in conjunction with Catholicism. ------- Find me an article that says 50-95 % of Germans are into S&M. lol
Again, I am not even saying this should have ever been a topic of a presidential debate, and the way Trump said it was weird and makes for good memes. What I am just observing is that a) the moderator was quick to deny IT EVER HAPPENED and insisted several times, citing a GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL, b) the leftists follow the usual playbook as outlined above. Yes, different cultures are different. No, it's not necessarily racist to point out that certain practices of other cultures may be shocking to Americans (whether rightly or wrongly). And it would be naive to assume that practices of the majority of the people of a certain culture get dropped completely when moving to a new country.
So under that reasoning then it would be both reasonable and correct to say that Germans are sex fiends who are here in America having a lot of S&M. What you don’t seem to understand is this why generalizations are dangerous. similar reasoning is used to justify “Blood Libel” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_libel
Umm no, unless you can find me scholarly articles which say that somewhere between 50 and 95 % of Germans are into S&M. You can read up about Voodoo. It's basically the Haitian culture/religion - even if people there are Catholic on paper, the majority of the people still practice it, in various forms. Animal sacrifice is absolutely essential to it. And yes, usually it wouldn't be cats or dogs, but it can be cats, dogs, turtles, etc., and the more the animal suffers, the "better" for the intended purpose within Voodoo. Why does it strike you as surprising or not believable that if you transplant 20k people, the majority of whom are used to animal sacrifice, into a small town, that the people who originally lived in that small town will exposed to seeing things they had not seen before and they would find shocking? It's totally logical. You can argue that it's no big deal and they shouldn't be upset about it (stage 3 of the leftist playbook), but you cannot deny that it's logical that it would be happening. Unless you want to make the illogical claim that these people would totally leave their culture and tradition behind once they enter the USA. Article from 2011 about these practices in Miami: https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/animal-rights-commando-goes-after-santeria-sacrifices-6379705 "So it's momentous that Couto is now targeting what he believes is just another example of animal "torture" in Miami: vodou sacrifices. Couto estimates that Santería practitioners were planning to sacrifice "fifty percent" of the animals in the illegal slaughterhouses he investigated. He routinely found mutilated animal corpses in the area, he says: "Some of these animals had their eyes missing, their genitalia missing. Most people think that Santería sacrifices are mainly goats. They don't know that dogs are also tortured. With the Haitian population, the longer that the animal suffers, the quicker that the evil spirits will come forth." Couto has published extremely graphic photos, which he says are evidence of a Santería black market, on his Website and 4,500-friend Facebook page. The pictures show a plastic bag he found containing a decapitated goat and, weirdly, sacrificed turtles; a slaughterhouse floor littered with thousands of goat horns; a puppy skin that he found near C-9 Basin; and a dying dog tied to a cross. Couto hasn't stopped his commando-style raids; he's only switched target areas. He's currently stalking a puppy mill, he says, where he guesses "90 percent of the dogs and puppies" are going to be used for Santería sacrifices." So today I learned that there is something similar from Cuba, called "Santeria" (but I think much less prevalent).
