Islam is inherently bad for people- all religion is bad, but Islam is far and away the worst. Sweden is having issues, Denmark, Germany, Norway, France, England - all from taking in too many Islamic immigrants. It takes 2 generations to assimilate, the parents rarely do, the children start to and by the third generation they are generally assimilated into that country. Too many immigrants and you can lose what made that society work - it is unfortunate, but the reason they are fleeing most of those countries is ISLAM and it's control - why would they want to try to bring that with them - and recreate the chaos they just left. We should be able to have a reasonable discussion about it, but any attempt brings out the ISLAMIC apologists.....in their attempt to cover up for the truth. DD
I just got back from vacation in Ireland this past weekend. I can say a few things about the political climate over there. Irish are keenly interested in American politics, maybe even more so that the average resident here. Everyone we ran into wanted to know what we thought about the elections. When speaking to the many family members in my wife's hometown, Tralee, County Kerry. Up the kingdom. We stayed pretty generic in our responses, because believe it or not they are as divided on US politics as we are. One of my big notices this time. It's been 3 years since last visit, was the amount of middle Eastern and Northern African immigrants. I asked what they thought about it and believe it or not many had the same angst as so many Americans if that is the correct term, because the immigrants are on the dole. They get a monthly stipend by the Irish government, free housing and free medical. I always thought Irish medical was free but found out it actually is not. so, there is anger about that. Also, semi small-town Irish always loved the sense of knowing those who live in your town, I call it Gladys Kravits effect, nosey. But with the influx of immigrants, they feel the towns are losing a sense of identity. They are also noticing a huge increase in drugs being smuggled in, mostly cocaine. They blame the newcomers for that. The country of Ireland is pro Palestine, but the folks in Tralee, not so much. But that would be like asking folks in Omaha Nebraska the same question as opposed to New York City, or Dublin. I just thought I would throw this information out there for a view of what I saw. This is not a political post. Many around the world are experiencing the same ideological struggle that we have going on here at home. PS if you think football is violent. Watch a hurling match.
Immigrants from different places effect things differently. 10s of millions of immigrants and second generation immigrants from Mexico/Honduras/Cuba/Venezuela/El Salvador etc etc won't effect the social fabric of the United States in the same way 10s of millions of immigrants and second generation immigrants from North Africa/The Near East/The Middle East/Afghanistan etc etc. We, of course, get immigrants from every country on earth but the ratio matters. I am not envious of the situation in Europe at all.
I was referring to your statement that we don't determine morality by counting the number of law violations and was in agreement with you. I was also referring to your claim that an illegal immigrant is more moral than someone who has never committed a crime, simply because that person is overweight and complains about people who do commit crimes and was disagreeing with you. The rest was simply more exaggerated examples where you have sided with the people who commit grave crimes and excuse them because of the circumstances in which they lived.
I don't know why you guys consistently bring up weight? Like that has anything to do with the topic? Islam is a bad dogma - it is a political movement. It's message literally CHANGES in the Koran as Mohammed gained in political power - why in the world would god's message change because of one man's stature? It doesn't make logical sense. Mohammed was a man - and he saw an opportunity, he was a televangelist of his time - convincing ignorant and poor people to follow him and provide for him. Religion is a CON - and all the personal attacks show that you have no way to refute the facts I bring. It is why people can't have legitimate immigration talks because Muslims will scream racism to try to stop people from realizing that too many at once are a cultural problem. Well, I don't care if you like it or not.......nor am I bothered much by personal attacks, don't know you, don't care to - but if you want to have a REAL discussion without crying wolf you bunch of PETERS.....I am here. Too much immigration is a very bad thing for safe societies....a moderate, regulated amount is fine - but to me there has to be incentives to joining the new country or they should be shipped back.... Maybe some of you guys that are b****ing about me should try to understand the issue, instead of whining because you are Muslim....and don't want to deal with things that might offend you.....never seen a more thin skinned group than those that follow a dogmatic religion......it is hard trying to have an intellectual conversation with those that live only in their feelings. DD
I’ve been to Ireland and am going again in a few days. The Irish view on immigration is complex and views in the north still part of the UK are different than in other parts of Ireland. There are views that immigrants are taking too many benefits but the Irish has still elected governments and maintain policies that are generally welcoming to immigrants. Because of Irelands own history as a colonized country and with a lot of emigration many Irish feel sympathy towards refugees and other oppressed people. This is one reason why Ireland is probably the most Pro-Palestinian European country. Also in the north the IRA was aligned with and even trained with the PLO during the Troubles.
I did see an incredible number of Palestinian flags in Tralee. The folks I talked to weren't so much angry that they are Palestinian. They could have been from Sweeden. They were angry with the free medical, monthly stipend "Dole", and free lodging when housing much like America is very expensive. Again, this is smaller town and not Dublin or Cork. Enjoy your trip. What part will you be visiting?
Regarding the UK Labour won overwhelmingly and even the Tories last Prime Minister was the son of immigrants. BREXIT won based on fear mongering over immigration and even many backers of Brexit admitted that the campaign was misleading. The idea that the UK is a hellhole because of immigration doesn’t hold. But not surprising from many of the same people who want you to believe that Tim Walz is trying to turn Minnesota into a socialist Islamic state.
I’m going to Dublin, Cork and Galway. Most of the time I’ve spent in Ireland was in areas around Dublin and the North. This will be the first time going to the South and West.
Looking forward to your heroic reports that because you could still order a beer, everything is fine.
Oh I’m sure I’m going drinking alot of Guinness and eating rashers because Ireland is now here close to having Sharia law. According to what you’ve been posting for years Ireland and Most of Europe should be part of the Caliphate. Heck according to the tidal wave of tweets form the last two days Minnesota should be part former caliphate since we have a pro-Hamas governor the last Six years.
Actually y’all are right though Ireland has been wracked by racial strife since the 90’s here is a documentary on it
Just a heads up, Cork city has crazy road construction going on around the English Market area. We were in traffic for an hour to go a 1/2 mile. I suggest finding a garage and walking the last 1/2 mile to city center. I don't know how old you are, but I got a chuckle seeing a United Colors of Benneton Store, and a Swatch store. As many times as I have been to Ireland, I have never been to Galway. Please give me a report on the town. I have no desire to go to Dublin, I can see everything in Dublin an hour and a half away in NYC.
We’re staying in an Air BNB near Cork center. I have to do the driving but did insist on staying somewhere close enough to easily walk to the pubs. I’ve heard a lot of good things about Galway. Im flying into and out of Dublin. So have to at least go through it. Dublin is the most cosmopolitan part and also the most expensive. It’s got a lot of tourist traps but still like it. I would never want to spend my whole time in Dublin but a day or two is fine.
