I don't blame Trump for our drug addicts and drug smugglers. I do think his push for Republicans to vote no to any border funding was both political and ignorant. Of course I believe gangs smuggle drugs too, just like Americans paid by cartels to smuggle their drugs. Was just presenting you with hard facts you don't believe. Read the article. The Trump comment was because he pushes flat out fear mongering lies about immigrants, that fools believe about crime, disease, and other unfounded facts. It must be awful to be so gullible to actually believe that a pathological lying con is telling you the truth.
You've pointed out a potential limitation, but you haven't provided any data to support its existence. Your statement about the hardest detections and best smuggling techniques is opinion-based and full of assumptions. It's not worth discussing further without concrete data to support these claims. To illustrate the problem with unsupported assumptions, I could make this statement: There are more drugs actually pass through legal crossings than the data presented, since illegal crossings face more scrutiny. However, this claim, like yours, is worthless without data to back it up. Both scenarios are speculative and shouldn't be given weight in a serious discussion without supporting evidence.
Actually, it is based on logic and reason. Pointing out the issue with a claim is not worthless without data to support an alternative. That is the point of survivorship bias, that you cannot just look at the information you do have, you have to look at the information you don't have and reason why you might not have that information. When planes were returning without hits to the engines and cockpit, it would not be a waste of time to point out that the reason most of the planes returning don't have damage to the engines and cockpit is because those are areas where damage is more likely to bring a plane down. You don't have to go behind enemy lines and recover damaged wrecks and find out that, oh yeah, killing the pilot or destroying the engines brings down planes, you can use logic and reason to figure that out. It was ignoring those "unsupported assumptions" that lead to failures. That is the whole point. The problem with your illustrative example is not that it relies on unsupported assumptions, but that the logical premise is nonsense. Legal crossings face far MORE scrutiny than illegal crossings (that's why people make the illegal crossings in the first place). At the port of entry, there are dogs and machines and law enforcement officers checking for papers and manifests and weighing trucks and searching for drugs. At some unspecified point along the border, you are just hoping someone doesn't escape detection entirely.
I don't know the answer as long as the demand fuels the supply. I doubt most of the people trying to cross and come here to escape crime or seek work are carrying packs of fentanyl. I would guess the biggest loads are coming across in vehicles and ports, and only a portion are caught daily. Sure, they also transport them through tunnels where crossings aren't common. Do we post post guards every ten feet for 1,000 miles of border forever, check every square in for for tunnels and breaches daily with armed guards? That won't change the fact that millions will be still be hooked on opioids, and driving the supply. I also believe that most of the millions trying to come into this country are simply trying to escape all the drugs, violence and poverty. They aren't all a bunch of disease ridden cartel members or people released from mental institutions and prisons like Trump wants people to believe. That's pure BS and fear mongering. Sure, there will always be criminals in the mix who might get through, just like all the criminals in the mix who aren't illegals. The cost to provide the rehab resort type treatment rich people can afford isn't feasible for most. But, we need to provide more support, rehab treatment, and counseling. Many will stay hooked, unless their treatment is provided at no cost. That will cost billions, but that would be a start. Opioids are a nasty drug. Kids are stupid, and will keep trying them for a high, thinking they are invincible to addiction and death. Then you have all those who can't afford prescriptions, and got hooked on a cheaper alternative for their addiction and pain. Pushing and providing highly addictive drugs is a nasty business, legal or not. All I do know is that as long as Americans keep fueling the supply it will not go away.
1. Yes, Obama has been pulling the strings and is currently behind trying to bet Biden off of the ticket. He also wants open borders to change the electoral map. 2. There's nothing unconstitutional about the remain in Mexico policy or the building of the wall as far as I know. 3. I dont want to burn people alive, but as I pointed out before the govt. has done this to their own people and if we went all in on stopping ILLEGAL immigration this would stop the ILLEGAL immigration and EVERYTHING should be on the table to stop it. God bless all of those families of those that have lost love ones at the hands of people who shouldn't be here to begin with. This really comes down to how much does the Govt and in this case value American lives and if their willing to do what's necessary to protect Americans. So far the answer to this question from the Biden admin has been no. This takes into account if citizens look at this invasion like it's a war on this country. If you look at this like it's a war then you do whatever is necessary to win said war. If it's war then all options shuld be on the table to stop the invasion. But make no mistake this illegal invasion could be stopped within a week depending on what measures were taken to stop the invasion.
I believe the gangs are behind the drugs getting into this country. I also believe the border was much more secure under the Trump admin. Just look at the numbers. No lies in those numbers. As far as crime they bring tell that to all of the families who've had family members killed, raped, beaten by illegals. I'm just glad we live in Texas where I can carry so I can protect myself.
Waco was a policy decision, so was Ruby Ridge etc... The govt lost a court case over Ruby Ridge. Like I said, allowing 25,000 ILLEGALS in a day is bad policy. Allowing 1 ILLEGAL is is bad policy. Why evn have laws if they're not going to be followed? There wasn't a need for new laws. (Too bad citizens had to die because Biden chose not to enforce existing laws.) Existing laws should've been followed. Trump policies should've been re-instated if Biden was serious about stopping ILLEGAL immigration.
Ask yourself where are these drugs coming from and are Cartels behind drugs coming into this country. Sometimes numbers lie.
The best way to stop the smuggling, cartels, and violence is to legalize it. How many people have been killed by the Don Julio and Casa Migos cartels trying to control the tequila supply coming into America. There are always going to be vices. People are going to give money to other people for temporary pleasure. The ills associated with combating it are as bad as or worse than the ills associated with allowing it. America should have learned that lesson when we prohibited alcohol then made it legal again. Trying to fight the drug war creates billions of dollars for the worst actors in Mexico, China, Afghanistan, etc., costs the taxpayers billions of dollars, creates warzones in our cities, and doesn't stop people from getting high. Just let people get high. If they want to get help, they can get help (just like alcoholics). If not, let them go to Walmart and buy their fentanyl tablets.
So we shouldn't worry about an opioids crisis then? Their choice? What if they want help, but can't get help because not enough is available, affordable, or free? I'm not a druggy so part of me says it's their choice, but I'm also not stupid enough to not realize that a lot of those hooked on opioids were provided them by their doctors and became addicted. If we have millions more getting easy legal access we will have bigger problems with crimes and theft, because they will be desperate for money for their addictions, and too sick to hold a job. As far as controlling illegals at the border what's your solution? Pay hundreds of thousands of armed guards to spread out every 10 feet or so, while checking for breaches and tunnels? Do you believe any people at the borders simply want to escape violence and drugs? Do you believe a lot of the people at the border are seeking work, and a way to provide for their family? I think when Trump spreads fear mongering saying millions of illegals are coming here spreading disease, raping our children, and murdering Americans is fear mongering hatred. There are no facts supporting the claims that illegals are committing more of these acts than the rest of our society. There will always be violent sick people in any group or culture, and Americans commit these acts every hour of the day.
Sometimes these posters need to meet the cartels @Salvy They probably think they are some brehs from fiesta Nah They aren’t
They will have to turn to their community for help. If they turn to crimes, that's why we have a criminal justice system. How do alcoholics manage to avoid stealing to by whiskey/wine/beer? They get jobs and maintain well enough to get by, or they don't. It isn't my job to save everyone from themselves. Eliminate public spending and just have open borders. A tiny minority. almost all of them have already escaped long before they reach the US border. Some local gang in Caracas isn't chasing someone 3,000 miles from Venezuela to the US. They are probably safe 100 miles away, and certainly have escaped that danger by they time they reach Colombia, or Panama, or Costa Rica, or Nicaragua, or Honduras, or Mexico. These are not deposed presidents that the new government has to hunt down to prevent them from setting up a rebellion in exile. Yes. Which is why we should get rid of public spending and let them in. Free movement of goods and labor. I agree, we should have open borders. We just can't do that and also have public funding (welfare, public education, health care, housing, etc.), because we don't have an infinite money tree to pay for all of them. Anyone that can pay their own way should be welcome.
Hold up, you're actually for open borders? Of course there's a ridiculous condition for it but surprised in that position from you.
I think there is a huge difference between alcoholics and people zombied out on fentanyl and other hard drugs. It's also much more deadly and addictive. I'm not sure relying on their community is enough. If it was that easy to get off the stuff we wouldn't have an epidemic of opioid addiction. Also, there are plenty of people who are working alcoholics, and don't get zombied out like people on fentanyl. As for healthcare, that's where I disagree, even though I pay for my own. We are a wealthy country and can afford to provide free or make it more affordable healthcare by raising taxes on the richest Americans and lowering them for the middle and lower class. We can also cut military spending. I also believe that price gouging in the healthcare and pharmaceutical industry is out of control. That is a huge problem. Nobody should have to suffer or die because they can't afford proper treatment or prescriptions they can't afford. This is a sad reality for many hard working Americans.
There are plenty of people who are working addicts. You didn't even realize it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. How about instead of forcibly taking money from me to pay for other people's health care, everyone that wants to can contribute to a national health care plan?
Making conclusions based on "asking yourself" is the wrong method, as it introduces assumptions and bias. This is pretty much gut feelings. The much better method is to look at data and analyze it.
