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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. astros123

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    Crime is plunging to its lowest level in a decade even though we've seen record immigration. The right wing german @AroundTheWorld has been telling is how immigrants commit so much crime yet even with record numbers of immigration crime is down to pre pandemic levels.

    Right wingers @Astrodome are brainwashed beyond anyone's understanding
     
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    Do you have any ****ing clue how long the border is? A wall won't work. People can already get over, through, under, Trump's big beautiful wall. Yet the GOP blocks funding for an immigration bill that would provide more border agents. They do this at the bidding or their orange overlord. The bill would have passed had Trump just shut his ****ing mouth. That says a lot about the GOP. They thought a bill was acceptable, yet they tank it because a ****ing felon tells them to.
     
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    You just described one of Trump's many psychopathic/sociopathic traits. He is so sick in the head, and power means so much to him, that he actually encourages rebellion against the leader of the country, while demanding his party does as he requests, even though he is in no position of authority himself. He wants them to vote no to any bills proposed to help fix or address the needs of the country, and that includes immigration. He does it so he can point blame and fingers, and say he will make things better.

    Then, if and when he does get power, it's back to being the center of attention, playing a lot of golf, wining and dining billionaires and foreign leaders at his properties, and seeing favors for himself in return for promises of making policies that help them. His properties then charge all these seekers of favors huge amounts to stay and mingle, as well as all the money he makes charging secret service for staying at his properties while protecting him.

    It's all about the grift, power, and immunity from prosecution. It's all about inserting ensuring loyalists and party members who will put him first above all else, keep zipped lips, cover his butt for any illegal activities, deflect from the truth, and spread his propaganda and lies. All promises that are made to address the needs of the people during rallies and campaigns are the last thing on his mind. It's all about him. It always has been, and always will be. He doesn't give a damn about anyone else. If he had his way this whole country would be white European descent Americans, and all brown skinned thugs, rapists, and criminals would be out the door. White people don't murder, rape, sex traffic, sell drugs, or shoot police. They don't live on welfare. They aren't pedophiles or child abusers unless they are LGBQT types. Yeah, keep believing his BS people. You are fools if you do.
     
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    By definition of those people were made
    Legal they would no longer be “illegal”.
     
  8. Commodore

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    remember, it's a conspiracy theory that Dems want an open border will millions of unvetted pouring in that will then be granted citizenship and voting rights
     
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    If someone has been here for years and not committed any crimes other than crossing the border or overstaying a visa they pretty much have proven they aren’t a threat.

    But besides that there is an immigration bill
    That has been negotiators by Democrats and republicans in Congress that would greatly increase border security. It is being held up by Republican leadership.

    Also to add the last President to get a
    Similar proposal as what is in your tweet passed was a Republican.
     
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    These are people who are married to American citizens. They have been vetted.
     
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    Why do magas lie so much? Is it because if they spoke the truth they fear no one would support them?

     
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    Remember you're a lying piece of **** who does nothing other than spew conspiracies all day



    Immigration is at a record low at the moment
     
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    1. It's not an open border. This was never a conspiracy; it's just factually wrong to ever describe the U.S. as having an open border. Biden's new proposal does not change that.
    2. "unvetted pouring in that will then be granted citizenship and voting rights" IS a conspiracy theory and is factually wrong.
    3. Biden's new policy could impact up to 500k undocumented spouses of Americans. It's not automatic but handled on a case-by-case basis, which may take years and could also be overturned by the court or a future administration.
    4. His new policy is a pretty sensible relief for Americans whose spouses stay underground because they don't want to be separated for an extended period of time (3-10+ years) to do the necessary paperwork to obtain a green card. The new policy allows them to be together here in the US while doing the paperwork, which might still take years to be granted a green card.

    From AP:

    OLD: Under U.S. immigration law, if an American marries someone who is not a citizen but is living in the U.S., it can be a straightforward process for the spouse to apply for long-term permanent residence—called a green card. But if the spouse has been living in the United States illegally for a long time, that process gets much more complicated. They often have to leave and apply from their home country. Depending on how long the person has lived in the U.S. without authorization, they could have to stay abroad for three to ten years before applying to come back. They can seek a waiver to avoid waiting that long abroad, but getting a waiver is also averaging about three and a half years. They have to go abroad, apply at a consulate—where waits can be extensive—and be permitted back into the U.S.

    NEW: Under the new policy, many spouses without legal status can now apply for lawful permanent residence without leaving the U.S. and eventually get a path to citizenship. But it’s not a blanket approval. To be eligible, people have to have lived in the U.S. for at least ten years, not pose a security threat, and have been married by June 17, 2024.​
     
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    Migrant encounters down 24% in June
    Heat, expedited removals and Mexican government crackdown giving border agents needed respite

    https://www.borderreport.com/immigration/migrant-encounters-down-24-in-june/

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    Cooperation with Mexico is one such factor, as Mexican immigration agents prevent migrants from getting on top of cargo trains headed to the border. In Juarez, across the border from El Paso, soldiers and police officers are now patrolling the banks of the Rio Grande and telling potential asylum-seekers to go to a shelter — or anywhere else but the river.

    Another deterrent is the federal government’s messaging that the U.S. border is not open, followed by an increase in repatriation flights, the official said.

    “Because we have additional holding capacity that was surged to us by the Secretary of Homeland Security, we can hold people longer without having to do decompression (release them with a notice to appear later in court) and thus give them their asylum interview while they’re still in holding,” the official said.

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    A third factor is expedited removals under
    a 1996 federal law that allows border agents to send those without a valid claim to remain in the United States back across the border without the need to go before an immigration judge.

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    Another obvious deterrent is the heat. The streak of triple-digit or near-triple-digit heat has contributed to many of the 82 fatalities recorded so far this year in the El Paso Sector.

    Officials in the past attributed a seasonal dip in illegal border crossings in summer along the Southwest to the heat. That was a given until irregular migration started its record climb in 2019.

    more at the link
     
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    Wow. You posted an actual objective article for once in your life. Bravo. Hopefully you've turned the corner and realized being a partisan MAGA is a bad look
     
  17. Astrodome

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    Castrate these migrants.








    Shout out to Joe for stepping up

     
  18. astros123

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    Rape and other violent crimes are at near record lows? I'm not sure whats your point here.

    Crime is down
    Border numbers are at 4 year low
    Stock market is at record highs
    Unemployment is low

    The only thing bad is the astros are sucking ass but life isn't so bad
     
  19. Astrodome

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    I appreciate your optimistic outlook. I think most people will be fine regardless of politics. This person didn't have to be here. Just like the Astros should be better than they are.
     
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    Except the 35 million people on obamacare/medicaid, 40 million people who have student loans, or the tens of millions of minorities who trump is promising on revoking the civil rights act from.

    Yeah I guess if you just remove those 80 million or so folks then yeah I guess folks will be fine aka white people like yourself.
     

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