Was there a caravan of multiple thousands of immigrants heading for the border? Do you advocate we make no effort to assist border control with this large number of illegals?
Possibly. I don't claim to be immune from things that afflict most humans. What implications? What advocacy, even? No. One directly countermands federal law on immigration, actively thwarting our border control. The other...doesn't. Actually, I'm fine with it. It's easy to argue against. I will say that, almost without exception, whenever anyone in a debate says 'you think'...they're usually wrong. Most often, remarkably so. Ok, you've got me there! Which legal immigrants have these concerns? How do these things affect citizens/legal immigrants? Why would they be scared to call the cops, or the fire department, or fear sending their kids to school, or going to the hospital for treatment. Is there rampant concern for this in non sanctuary cities? I'm not aware of any. Flatly refusing to govern is good governance? yet this isn't an argument for open borders? ??
There's a question I had on the caravan, that I haven't seen any news on...yet seems quite relevant. How are they getting food and shelter??? You can't just take off on a multi month journey without a fairly significant cash reserve, if nothing else. Four months of food for a family isn't free. Yet I haven't seen any coverage on this and none of the people I've seen footage have have tents, bags, blankets...anything. Or any food. I have seen some of them carrying cups...where did those come from? Why are they not starving, or suffering from exposure? At the least, it would be an interesting part of the story. At the worst, it might indicate that these people are being funded, and upon further investigation, by whom. Why isn't this being covered? Is it not part of the story?
Most likely NGOs like the hundreds of similar caravans before it. You can tell how political this news coverage is by how it's portrayed as such a novel and unique incident right before the midterms.
I think you are missing the reason why illegals come over, jobs. I would argue GOP policies of loose labor laws and lack of enforcement contribute more to the illegal immigration issue. Texas is a conservative border state and look at the results of their policies.
Jobs in general aren't immigration related..ie, we would want jobs regardless. Allowing illegal immigrants to work jobs? Yes, that is directly immigration related, and part of the problem. If we truly want to control the border, we need to fix that. Probably need some modifications to policy for that to work...like a migrant worker provision. Again, none of this is hard....the problem is purely political. Recent plans from Republicans do address this, have amnesty clauses in them, etc. I would think Democrats could support them, as well...if both sides ever actually wanted to fix it.
Yes, that was my point. That it isn't being covered (and likely why) is news in itself. I can definitely say that none of the clips I've seen look like people who have been living on the road for a couple months. No shelter, no showers, no food. Not tired from walking days on end in the heat. They seem more like people who spend a day at the fair.
It’s the chicken and the egg dilemma. Would we have millions of illegal immigrants if they weren’t being hired? GOP screams the loudest yet they are incapable of fixing it when they have control of the government.... seems like this issue helps them too much politically to fix it... What’s conservative Texas’s excuse? Am I to believe that Rick Perry and Abbott don’t realize they control state labor laws? Wake up, they don’t want to fix in spite of being in a position to.
I hate anecdotes generally, but I'll try to answer a little by anecdote. Say there was a robbery and you know who the perpetrators are but you're undocumented; if you help the police catch the crooks, you could be deported as a reward. Say you come upon a victim of some hit and run accident and the guy needs to get to a hospital asap. If your illegal, would you be willing to take him to a hospital? Say you're an illegal but your children are citizens. They should go to school, but are you at risk of getting stopped one day in carpool and removed from the country? Maybe its safer to keep the kids at home. In anecdotes like that, the disincentive structure you make with local enforcement of immigration law can make illegal immigrants do things that impact the people around them in a negative way. Even legal immigrants may be hesitant to do things that will result in their status being scrutinized. In non-sanctuary cities, you wouldn't hear about it because those immigrants keep their mouths shut. But, you have seen stories like there was a car accident and a half-dozen Mexicans hopped out and ran away because they can't risk staying to make sure everyone is okay. We've also heard about companies who hire illegals who also pay under minimum wage and have serious workplace safety violations. You have seen stories about women forced into prostitution afraid to go to the cops because they're illegal. There was this story about a Maryland cop who allegedly raped an undocumented woman figuring she wouldn't be able to report him. Here is another one where a Texas cop who raped a 4-year old over a long period of time and used the threat of deportation to keep her mother quiet. Those two are just the ones where threats of deportation were not enough to buy silence; how many times do you suppose this threat actually does work? My guess would be a lot. Wouldn't it be nice if you were a parent of a young child who is being regularly raped if you didn't have the prospect of losing your job, your home, your family, etc in order to get justice? I've already answered this question once before with 10 seconds of googling. It is funded by Catholic Legal Immigration Network (CLIN), the American Immigration Council (AIC), the Refugee and Immigration Center for Education and Legal Services (RICELS) and the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA). https://www.americanthinker.com/art...aravans_encouraged_by_honduras_and_soros.html As for it being covered, don't worry. Right-wing media is all over it, and they will assure you this is all George Soros' doing.
Why can't these caravaners overstay their student or tourist visas like a regular undocumented alien?
hold up... i thought these 7k+ poor folks from Central America are all "refugees" and seeking asylum because they fear gang violence in their country? lmao.... seems like liberals are forgetting the definition of "asylum".
I'm sure some are and some aren't. Hence why they should go through a case by case process to check whether they are worthy of asylum. But keep on beating the **** out of strawmen suggesting that "the left" wants them to all just freely walk through our border.
Do those make up the majority of illegal immigrants? I'd rather focus on the low hanging fruit of enforcing labor laws. Again, what's the excuse for Texas not doing so? The excuse for the GOP controlled government? Keep voting for folks that don't want to solve the problem, but only rile you up to vote.
I wonder what the sentiment would be if there were 7000+ Russians caravaning in from Canada to take our benefits and other things?
Well if they were at the brunt end of some humanitian crisies or political targets of Putin we would process them by a case by case basis to see if they merit asylum?
