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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. basso

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    nope.
     
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  2. juicystream

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    So you're in favor of removing the caps preventing them from having any chance of coming legally?
     
  3. rocketsjudoka

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    Remember you posted info from the Trump administration earlier in the thread that Trump needed Congress’ help to shut down the border. If Trump couldn’t do it why do you think any other president could?
     
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    I am a legal immigrant lol.
     
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  5. rocketsjudoka

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    Yes you are and you’ve stated yourself that you can’t vote. I don’t know why then you’ve brought up a few times that one party wants to bring in a lot of immigrants to vote for them.
     
  6. NewRoxFan

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    The speaker johnson and the maga house hate law enforcement... even those protecting our border.

     
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  7. tinman

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    @ROXRAN
    @Salvy

    you know the word illegal is not in the woke vocabulary
    You know looting Louis Vuitton and Nike stores
    Illegal
     
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  8. tinman

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    I can vote
    For president
    Or the nba all stars

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    I’m not voting for Jeremy Lin like half the d&d
     
  9. AroundTheWorld

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    Why not?
     
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  11. basso

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    truly bizarre reasoning.
     
  12. basso

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    what I posted does not say what you think it does.
     
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  13. NewRoxFan

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    Why don't republican lawmakers know our laws?

     
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    Wow... trump lies? Where has lankford been the past 8 years?

     
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  15. Kim

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    This is disingenuous and you should know it. I'm for shutting down the border, but I'm also for the Constitution. Trump and Maga only want victories and on their terms. They care about border security, but they don't mind tearing apart the Constitution to do it. As a natural born American citizen who believes in Constitution, I cannot condone this MAGA mode of operation.
     
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    no lies detected
     
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    What do you and Elon think happened in 2020 that might have slowed migration?
     
  19. Kim

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    It also wasn't counted the same way. This is misusing stats to push an agenda instead of trying to fix broken policy.

    Again, I'm not defending Biden and Democrats because it took massive unpopular opinion due to Abbott's shady but effective bussing program to get Dems to move towards their centrists and away from their progressives regarding a broken asylum system. It also took the continual deterioration of parts of Latin America plus the world exploiting this US asylum loophole.

    That stated, Maga world is buying into the lies and belief that no bill is better than a compromise bill. The entire Constitution was about compromising from different factions in order to save America's future. There is no way for Trump to fix the border on his own without becoming a de facto King, and that is a crazy possibility that too many of us are okay with.

    Encounters explained:
    https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/jan/03/key-facts-about-immigration-data-what-it-can-and-c/
     
  20. Nook

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    This narrative isn’t accurate from a historical perspective- at least in the USA.

    Large numbers of young single men have always come to the USA because it is easier for them to do so and in some cases they establish themselves and then bring over families. Also - with the Texas border, the vast majority of immigrants have been illegal for many many decades, because it is easy to do. It was so bad that Ronald Reagan even gave amnesty. The illegals at the southern border would have kids and their kids have kids, and they are legal by birth.

    Also - many Irish, Germans and Italians entered the USA illegally as stowaways or on unauthorized ships. Even those that came through Ellis Island were immediately granted citizenship as long as they didn’t have a social disease.

    This is how the mafia ended up in the USA. It’s also how the Triad ended up on the west coast.

    So is every single person that enters the USA safe? No, but most of the studies are clear - immigrants commit less crime than native born citizens.

    The situation in Western Europe is different. They are not cultural melting pots like the USA. Europe is also not as welcoming of immigrants culturally. Also - South and Central Americans are Arab Muslim extremists.

    The USA is and has been loaded with non legal citizens from around the globe - I personally know a number of Europeans that got a visa, overstayed their visa and live illegally in the USA- Poles, Irish and a Spaniard. I also know Chinese and Koreans that are not US citizens but live and have lived illegally in the USA for 20 years. I know one Chinese man that married an American and had kids, he even works a good job but his visa expired decades ago and had NO desire to go back to CCP. No one knows or suspects he is illegal and he is the last one to ever get arrested because he would be deported.
     

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