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Solving Illegal Immigration

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  1. Salvy

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  2. Salvy

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    Woke leftist extremist are anti American, anti Law and Order, anti border security, anti everything that made this country what it was pre 2020..... Criminals better get it out of their system before The Don steps in, The Purge is about to end....
     
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    I want to the the fight between blm. Antifa, migrants and pro Hamas .
    Let them fight
     
  4. Amiga

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    The Residents of Eagle Pass, Texas, Just Want Their Town Back

    Throughout January, a right-wing militant group based out of North Carolina called upon supporters to travel to a small Texas border town to “gather” and help “do the work of closing our borders.”

    “By Ballot, by choice,” the group’s website promised. “By Bullet if forced. The Republic will be Restored.”

    Mike Garcia, a resident of Eagle Pass, Texas—the small town in question—heard about the North Carolina visitors from a reporter who gave him and some other locals a heads-up. “We were freaking out,” Garcia said. He and a group of residents alerted a nearby high school and others in the community. And soon enough, on Jan. 20, Garcia saw what were undeniably a couple of outsiders driving around the local Shelby Park. (“When you’re 98 percent Hispanic, and somebody who’s white with a big beard, looking like they came from Duck Dynasty—they stick out,” he said.) The outsiders drove their pickup trucks slowly by the gate of the park, peering out their windows, looking past the concertina wire and National Guardsmen and state troopers for drama.

    But as far as Garcia could tell, the trip was a dud; the visitors expected to see an area overrun with migrants and immigration officials, but they arrived at a time when the area’s migrant processing had been redirected to a different location. “They were disappointed,” Garcia said, “because there were no immigrants.”

    The encounter was just one episode exemplifying the absurdity of life right now in Eagle Pass; already, a second, more organized and publicized caravan of anti-immigration protesters is working its way south toward the city. In recent months, the town of 28,000 has transformed from a relatively quiet international commerce waypoint into a destination for conservative livestreaming and speechmaking. As the maneuvering in Washington over border politics heats up—the GOP is moving to impeach the Homeland Security director, and Republicans are working to kill a strict but bipartisan border deal, seemingly in order to preserve their own campaign rallying cry—Eagle Pass has become the site of a turf war between the federal and state government, and a focal point in political posturing around the border.

    Eagle Pass’ 47-acre Shelby Park encompasses much of the city’s access to the river and serves as a natural staging area for immigration agents. As the park became something of a hub for migrant encounters, tensions between the federal and Texas immigration enforcement authorities only grew.

    Before Shelby Park was seized by the state, it was the site of regular community events, such as pickup soccer matches and Little League games. Every spring, the city holds an event called Noches Mexicanas, a public festival with live music, food, and local vendors, at the park. Eagle Pass is set to be in the path of totality for the April 8 total solar eclipse, and the city plans to host a Latin and country music festival to mark the occasion, with Shelby Park serving as parking for the event. According to Garcia, Shelby Park’s parking lot—now fenced off—used to serve the flea market by Main Street every Monday and Friday. That flea market, which Garcia said included as many as 80 to 100 vendors, has essentially collapsed amid the standoff. “Some people, that’s where their living is,” he said.

    The origin of the state’s current drama dates back to March 2021. Abbott launched Operation Lone Star that month, sending state troopers and Texas National Guardsmen to parts of the border to arrest migrants suspected of trespassing. (Ron DeSantis also dispatched some of the Florida National Guard to participate in the operation.) Then, in June 2021, the governor issued a “disaster declaration” that empowered the state to set up barriers and suspend state laws and regulations. At Eagle Pass, the state put up miles of razor wire along the Rio Grande as well as massive buoys in the river itself. The state lined Shelby Park with shipping containers to block the river. For a period this past summer, Salinas closed the park at the request of the Texas Department of Public Safety, allowing the department to arrest migrants there.

    “I voted for Abbott; I think he’s been good for Texas,” Garcia said. “But to tell somebody ‘We’re taking over’ and not giving a good reason—you feel slapped silly. Nobody here is happy with what they did, because of the way they did it.”

    Since the park was taken, the public has been allowed in only sparingly. (Mostly, it’s to use the golf course adjacent to the park.) A group that included Garcia was permitted in to put up a memorial to the migrants who drowned in the river. Reporters have been allowed in to take a look. But there have been no more people coming in to play soccer or fish or kayak in the town’s only public river access point.

    And that’s been particularly tough for Jessie Fuentes, the town’s only river outfitter, who provides canoes and kayaks for recreation on the Rio Grande. Fuentes, who has lived in Eagle Pass his whole life, grew up with the river and sees it as essential to the community’s culture. Losing Shelby Park and its river access has been hard for him.

    “Now the only people I’m putting in are journalists and professors and individuals that want to see the utter destruction,” he said. “What’s been happening has really shut me down.”

    For Fuentes, the real problems began not with the closure of Shelby Park but with the state’s interference in the Rio Grande itself. Texas first put out its river buoys as a kind of floating barrier to block wading migrants on July 7; Fuentes filed a lawsuit against the state that same day.

    Immediately, he stepped into national politics. “When I first sued the governor, I got calls from all across America,” he said. “Crazy people, saying all kinds of stuff about me.”

    His suit, which he later dropped in deference to the federal government’s legal challenge, argued that Abbott was overstepping his power. He was angry, he said in a phone interview recently, not just about his business, but also about the damage all these efforts were doing to the ecosystem.

    “They bulldozed the islands, they bulldozed the edges of the river, they put in concrete and concertina wire. They destroyed sanctuaries,” he said. “The river system is being destroyed.”

    For people like Fuentes, it’s hard not to see these inspections as political theater; with his severe overreaction, Abbott seems hellbent on trying to emasculate the Biden administration by casting doubts on the efficacy of the federal Border Patrol. “There’s a [state] trooper every 2 or 3 miles, and it’s 95 miles to get to the interstate,” Fuentes said. “There was even a trooper in my alley, in front of my house. I laugh about it, but I know it’s affecting our economy.”

    Even Garcia, an Abbott supporter who voted for Trump, feels that the state is going about things in too heavy-handed a way. “Abbott created a hardship for us,” he said.

    The National Guard has said the CBP agents did not convey it was an emergency, but regardless, the bureaucratic spat between federal and state law enforcement may have been fatal. A 33-year-old mother and two of her children, ages 8 and 10, drowned. They had been trying to escape cartel violence in their hometown in Mexico.

    “We’re treating these people like they’re an invading army—they’re not here trying to kill people,” Garcia said. “Not the ones with wives and children, and old people.”

    Francisco Riojas, a high school art teacher who also grew up in Eagle Pass, has his reasons for wanting greater control of migration. “I live near one of the Border Patrol stations in town, and almost daily, I see immigrants passing through the neighborhoods, hiding, trying to get away from authorities,” he said. “It gets scary sometimes, because we hear about businesses being broken into, homes being robbed. I’ve had bicycles stolen. It’s frustrating. But seeing as we are familiar with their sort of situation, we have empathy for people who are struggling to survive and trying to live.”

    He said there’s a general feeling in town that something needs to be done—but to help asylum seekers, not just police them. “The majority of the people here are low-income,” he said. “And so most people here know what it’s like to struggle to live.”

    Residents of Eagle Pass are used to hearing politicians use their city to make a point. Fuentes, the river outfitter, recalled when House Speaker Mike Johnson brought a delegation of 60 House Republicans on Jan. 3. “It’s all these people who come for a photo-op and leave,” he said. “They don’t visit hospitals or schools. They get in a boat, ride around for a bit, take some pictures, and they’re gone. And they’ve got their photo in front of the border. But what about the locals, man? We’re tired.
     
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    No bail and they all fled the state lol. Black people in NYC should just claim to be illegal aliens
     
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    Texas tax payers paying an expensve bill for wheel's border publicity stunts...

     
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    caribou barbie traveled over 4,000 miles all the way down from Alaska to speak to seventy-five magas at the border.

     
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    2024 is going to be the most important election in this country of all time. Imagine what it will look like after 8 years of open borders...
     
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    Reichlin-Melnick is a great source of actual data...


     
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    Not even remotely possible. Should be the title of every maga republican strategy...

     
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    Try being educated instead of the low iq dipshit moron that you act here
     
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    That's not gonna happen, so why waste your time responding to a brainwashed MAGA troll? Just curious. He won't change, because guys who believe a compulsive lying sociopath like Trump don't have the critical reasoning skills to know the difference between truth and lies.
     
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    These right wing trolls @AroundTheWorld @Salvy @Bandwagoner can't grasp the difference between encounters vs admissions. Biden has deported a higher % of assylm seekers than trump has and has proposed legislation to make it much much harder to get accepted.

    None of these trolls can debate in merits or facts so they fall back to braindead low iq tweets. They have no idea how immigration law works
     
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    don’t really have to imagine

    we have had open border for 34 years
     
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    Somehow the most important thing facing this country is "open borders" but when folks in the senate want to pass a bill that will solve this issue and shut the border you folks don't want the legislation to pass.

    Why not just say you want trump to win cuz you're part of his cult? Why do you folks have to justify the 2024 election by claiming immigration or economy are the issue when in reality you want trump to win to "own the libs."

    Why lie to yourself? Just say you want to own the libs and that's what's important
     

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