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Solving Illegal Immigration

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by thumbs, Jun 15, 2018.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    Considering there are still random attacks that happen Asians, even many who aren’t Chinese but people think they are, yeah no it’s not over.
     
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    Are you in favor of their effort?
     
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    If mosques are barracks disguised as places of worship, one needs to have a discussion.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/2270642.stm

    Erdogan before 2002:

    "The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers..."

    Turns out, this is exactly what has been happening. A lot of these mosques are funded directly by Erdogan, who gets lots of money from the EU.
     
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    And Germany keeps inviting and funding more hostile "soldiers" who keep building more barracks.

    A society working on its own demise.
     
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    This is what gets taught in many of these mosques. You can choose not to believe it, but it's true.

    Places disguised as houses of worship, but when you see the hateful mobs on the streets, this is where they got indoctrinated with hate.



    Your question is a difficult one to answer.

    I am obviously in favour of freedom of religion, so my initial instinct is to say, no, of course not, you cannot touch mosques or synagogues or churches.

    But if evidence mounts that hate and murder get preached in some of them, and that this gets sponsored/steered by hostile foreign governments, then much more scrutiny is in order, at the very least.
     
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    What has become of our country?

     
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    I believe it is already illegal to have military installations if one isn't the actual military.

    Banning all mosques is something different. You know that.
     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    I’m not a fan of Erdogan but that sounds similar to rhetoric from Christian politicians who talk about putting on the armor of God and singing Onward Christian Soldiers.

    I don’t think there are many who would seriously consider that as a reason to destroy churches.
     
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    It's not just a single quote.
     
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    Sure and plenty of very Christian politicians make all sorts of militaristic quotes about Christianity.

    This just seems like more looking for reasons to get outraged. It’s also something that rather than make things better will make things worse.
     
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    You are talking about stuff you clearly do not understand.
     
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    Got it.

    The initial narrative portrayed communism as extremely bad, advocating for its cessation and promoting the acceptance of immigrants from those countries. Like any group, there are inevitably some undesirable individuals among those who immigrate, but that wasn't the focus of the story. Anti-communism was the banner.

    While our stance remains anti-communist, we've adapted to coexist and engage in commerce with communist nations, recognizing past attempts (wars) to thwart communism as significant errors. The current narrative is now on the perceived drawbacks of immigration. The number of problematic individuals might not be higher than during the anti-communist era, but the spotlight has turned onto immigrants themselves in a negative light. This shift is facilitated by the ease with which social media can amplify individual instances, fostering the spread of misinformation and disinformation on a massive scale.

    Repeating myself: my concern lies not so much with the narrative itself (there is some kernel of truth to them, and besides, our immigration laws are absolutely broken) but with the lack of action from the US government and politicians to address the issue. The ongoing anti-immigration narrative serves politicians too well for them to address it.
     
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    If understanding is doom scrolling Twitter and spamming Clutchfans with things that outrage me is understanding then I’m probably better off not understanding.
     
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    You probably need to spend a bit of time in some major European cities and educate yourself about DITIB.
     
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    I’ve spent time in European cities. I’ll be in Amsterdam in a few weeks. I understand that immigration is causing massive cultural disruptions. It has here too in the US. That doesn’t mean that living in fear of all Muslims
    Is the way to go or healthy.

    I see Muslims everyday. I see women in hijabs shopping at the grocery stores I go to. One of architects I work with who has done a lot for my career’s first name is Mohammed. And again there is a mosque down the street from
    Me. Should I go demand the city of Minneapolis close that down because it is actually a barracks of Jihadist who any moment will spring out and demand that I submit to sharia law?
     
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    Speaking of Europe I was talking to my 21 year old cousin who is going to be studying abroad Italy next semester. I told her to be careful of things like pick pockets in Florence but also to be cognizant of the political situation in Europe now and the rise of anti immigrant parties. While chances are nothing is going to happen given that there are European leaders who have railed against race mixing and about “Asiatics” as an Asian American in Europe should be at least aware.
     

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