There were 142,000 migrants encountered (that's how many they caught, there were probably at least that many that got in without being caught) in the first 2 weeks of September. Migrant encounters at U.S.-Mexico border on pace to reach record highs in September | Reuters Removing 253k since May 12 means there were what, 500k that were not removed? Your position that these illegal immigrants are all being deported immediately is make believe. The majority will disappear into the interior without showing up for a court date. Those who do show up will likely have years in America before they are deported.
That makes no sense at all. A district judge had blocked the new policies going into effect but they won on appeal. Again how can you claim hundreds of thousands are being let go when the offical dhs policy is deport if they don't have appointments. The number I quoted was offical numbers since last month. They don't calculate deportations middle month they release those at end of the month. https://www.dhs.gov/news/2023/05/10/dhs-and-doj-finalize-rule-incentivize-use-lawful-immigration-pathways#:~:text=The rule presumes those who,in the country of removal. That number you quoted includes CBP applications and others. You're literally just making **** up. Venezuelans don't get TPS at the border nor do they get any sort of special processing. Venezuelans get treated at the border like anyone else
All of that sounds good to me. Just relying on enforcement will never work as long as the both a lot of people they want to come and there are a lot of business interest that want to hire them. We need to bring our immigration policies more into line with that reality.
What I’m seeing on the news this morning is that a lot of the recent immigration is being driven by cartels giving false information to migrants.
I think misinformation is a huge issue, if you're not there you have no clue what the truth and what's maga propaganda. One thing I will say is this **** needs to be fixed and it's not the President who will do this fixing its congress. The optics are horrible, and I am on the fence on how to proceed, on one hand I want these poor folks to heave a great life and on the other I am like it's not worth it. I am not thrilled on how the WH is not addressing this, Joe needs to be firm and in all honestly, I am ready to semi close the border, the Eagle Pass issue is coming to a head and I am very concerned. On one hand I am not there and I dont know the facts and I am being fed so many different opinions I don't know what's true and what's not true. The Dems are friggin horrible about talking about real ****, if we have an issue, then let's talk about it so I am not inundated with BS but as of now I dont know what is real or fiction.................I think this could sink the dems in 2024 and its a serious issue, hell if it takes sending 50k military to the border to stop the crossing then do it...................again, I have no clue what's real and whats fake and what's not.
I always here this from Libertarians. Enforcement of laws never changes behaviors. The reality is, enforcement greatly changes behaviors. Speeding, drugs, everything.
Agreed... as part of a comprehensive solution to the immigration problem that includes increased hiring of border patrol, more use of technology, increased enforcement of hiring laws, enhanced barriers where needed, and improved/faster processing. Wish both parties would agree to work on something like this rather than the approaches both are taking currently.
Agreed... as part of a comprehensive solution to the immigration problem that includes increased hiring of border patrol, more use of technology, increased enforcement of hiring laws, enhanced barriers where needed, and improved/faster processing. Wish both parties would agree to work on something like this rather than the approaches both are taking currently.
Enforcement is part of the solution, but cannot fix everything on its own if the rules are outdated. It cannot eliminate push factors (countries failing) and pull factors (everyone loves the US + asylum law allows new arrivals a chance). I do think what could be better enforced is cracking down on the illegal hiring of children and migrant labor by corporations and 3rd party employment companies who take advantage of the crisis to improve their bottom line.
I always find it funny that the lazy assholes that sit at home, most likely on government assistance, are the ones who b**** most about immigrant workers. After working for many years on large industrial projects in South Texas, I can almost guarantee that these complainers would never step foot into an 8ft hole with 120 degree ambient heat to tie rebar that will eventually feed their family. Immigrant workers are cogs that keep the machine going. Go do their job if you do not like them being here.
Sure, but it isn't a unworkable non starter. Enforcement works. The extent it works is directly proportional to the amount used.
"Any alien who is physically present in the United States or who arrives in the United States (whether or not at a designated port of arrival and including an alien who is brought to the United States after having been interdicted in international or United States waters), irrespective of such alien's status, may apply for asylum in accordance with this section or, where applicable, section 1225(b) of this title." Now there are exceptions, processes, and refinements that can be made from the executive branch, but none of that can nullify the law. As long as countries fail + people love the US + not enough help from allies + congress doesn't fund, then it'll = a line of migrants waiting in the US that only grows at varying degrees, but does not shrink.
Yes I think they should also be done. That also thought will cost money and also changes in policy. Many in Congress are also against things like foreign aid and doing things like Lifting sanctions on Venezuela would also be unpopular.
Right because The war on Drugs was really successful and the 55 MPH speed limit was really successful.
Enforcement can work when the laws are more in line with the supply and demand curve. It doesn’t work when I cases like alcohol and mar1juana prohibition when the laws are out of touch with the demand and supply. Further it leads to more crime as the black market steps in to meet that demand. That is the situation with our current immigration laws. There is both a large supply of people who want to come and also a demand to hire their labor. This is why we see coyotes and cartels stepping to to address that. If our laws were closer to the demand we would reduce the impetus to got through illegal channels. That would make it easier to protect our borders from those who would actually seek to do us harm.
