$4 - 6 inch sub vs $1 double cheeseburger. That isn't exactly competitively priced. Not that most of what people order at Subway is all that healthy.
I was thinking more along the likes of a $6 1-foot sub + chips/drink vs. $6 value menu. You can compare/contrast all day long, but I think for the quantity/price combination, they are competitive. ... unless you really think Subway is expensive?
It is. It always used to cost me $8 bucks. Turkey wasn't a $5 footlong, so I had to pay $6 just for the sandwich, or $4 for a 6 inch. When they had the fresh-fit meal for $4 it was great, but only came one day a week for my sandwich. Moes is the only fast food place that I go to that costs me more than Subway. I personally don't eat Subway often because they don't put enough meat on their sandwich and the bread contains more calories. Might as well make my own sandwich at home. McDonald's is way cheaper if you order from the value menu. Taco Bell is another good choice for cheap and hungry.
you can get 99 cent burritos from the supermarket that are healthier than taco bell. ultimately it's the soda and white bread that hits you with most of the empty calories. drink water instead of soda, you save a buck and change there, and you can use that money to buy a nice big chicken burrito with a whole wheat wrap. outcome = you pay less for more healthier food. A can of soup is about a buck as well. a banana = 25 cents The truth is fast food is a convenience food and it's tasty. It's not about healthy food. It's about cheap and tasty food. That is where fast food and other stuff beats out healthy food. To make healthy food tasty it does cost a lot more. But that's not what this is about.
i don't know, soup has a lot of sodium...we better tax that too. bananas...they attract mesquitos which will spread disease...better tax those too.
Well, I'm happy for you, but it really is beside the point. Classifying what foods are healthy and which should be taxed is a slippery slope you can be rest assured the govt will go down. The fundamental decision on what I want to eat should not be punished. I dont see why you have a problem paying for someone else's cholesterol problems. Its called shared responsibility, one of the "perks" of living in a modern society. Kind of how you drive your SUV on a highway you alone couldn't afford.
I can not believe that you find it hard to separate foods that are "junk" from normal foods. I just can't buy that. This is just ridiculous. I can't post anymore here because I'm getting angry. I find it disturbing watching fat people move around on automated wheelchairs and then get up to pick up a bag of potato chips off the shelf. It's like watching that Pixar movie about the cruise ship with all the fat people. You guys think iran is a threat to America's future? Ha! I'm done with this stuff.
You just revealed your ignorance on this issue. Ask any nutritionist if they are the same or if one is much more deleterious. Simply...wow.
Your drift is completely full of crap. That is the problem. Cane sugar is not highly processed. Your body will break down cane sugar. HFCS is highly processed. Your body cannot break it down. You will put on weight MUCH, MUCH faster with HFCS as opposed to cane sugar.
Really? Define junk food - keep in mind, new foods are constantly being developed, so you need a definition that can be used on new products not yet out.
The American Medical Association has said that HFCS is no worse than other sugars back in 2008. That was a year ago. I guess the AMA is also ignorant too huh? You are just being an a-hole now. You should first educated yourself before calling others ignorant. Go tell the AMA they are ignorant. Geez. And I don't know if there is a single nutritionist out there with any cred that will say you should drink pepsi with cane sugar verse corn syrup. I mean, do you think a nutritionist will make that recommendation? I just called my aunt who is a nutritionist and left a message to ask her what she thinks. I'll let you know when i hear back. Sucks that all the conservatives are trying to defend sugar now in order to bash a tax.
Sure. Junk food - anything that has high caloric value but low nutritional value. I am sure the FDA could come up with a standard for defining minimum nutritional value per calorie.
This argument's posts paint an interesting picture of some people's idea of freedom, among other things. Taxing lifestyle choices is a very slippery slope. I find it unsettling how little people want to pretend to think of each other once they are on the other side of one of these lifestyle choices (in internet bbs chats etc. on the subject). One might think that someone who, for whatever reason, struggles with weight issues for their adult life or longer and endures the difficulties of such a life might be in need of assistance and care that could help them and others... but not here... some here would have you think that if you ever smoked a cigarette or dreamt of eating a cheeseburger or, God forbid had a soda, that you should have one of your hands removed surgically after handing your life savings over at the door for being such a drain on and inconvenience to society. I think it's a little unsettling how jaded and spiteful some can seem to be. I think it would be prudent to notice how fervently one seeks to punish others for perceived "sins" or vices, next it may be your life or my life that is examined so, and the microscope may need to be shoved a little further for whatever might be next... get ready. Whenever something like this comes up, I wonder how relying on things to generate tax money, things that many of us would like to eliminate or see reduced or changed, is a good idea long term? I mean... someone tell me, when they said the lottery was going to generate education tax dollars, did they tack it on to what they were getting before (maybe they did, teachers make much more starting now than they did 20 years ago, but I don't truly know) or did it replace previous tax moneys. In other words... are we somewhat dependent on it now to make our education budget work? And where did the money that previously went there go? Could we get it back if one day we wanted to get rid of the lottery? In theory yes, but how hard would it be to replace? And if we taxed soda... and already with all these cigarette taxes... what happens when the whistleblowers, and those that would impose lifestyle choices on others in the name of the collective greater good, have taken their causes and propaganda so far and full circle that the behaviors are outlawed or eliminated altogether... what then? Where will all those lost tax revenues come from then? Perhaps the tax proponent's answer would be "those money's are gained in improved health collectively." Perhaps... but then the next echelon of unhealthy choices will be decided, by perhaps someone you don't agree with... and taxed... and eliminated... and the next and the next. Once the barriers and protections of freedom are gone, it's hard to see how far those implications will reach into all of our lives.
i seriously cant believe how many people are supporting this. ugh i hope theres a extra tax on beer on top of the crazy amounts they charge now for all the alcoholics
As long as it is not YOUR VICE . . . .then people ok with taxing it etc I wonder how many people are FOR THIS but pissed about Weed being illegal Rocket River
The FDA defines what is Organic, what is "low fat" and many other labels. Amazing isn't it??? But no...they can't say what's junk food, god forbid they make you pay anothr 5 cents for your slushi.
Thanks for the laugh bro. Yes a soda tax is really a subversive plan to feed everyone space food! I fully support a junk food tax. Personally, I think they should make it 100%. We have failed American kids. Completely and utterly. Parents, teachers, doctors and most of politicians. We have failed miserably and we have a generation of fat kids from poor to rich coming to age that will drag this country futher and futher down. I mean, it's going to be ridiculous. You can argue about your personal freedomes being taken away and slippery slope and how terrible it was with cigarettes but guess what! It's happening. Cigarette taxes worked. Smoking is down. Whether it's the taxes or the information campaign that the taxes were use to pay doesn't matter. It helped me quit so I'm thankful. I hated Bloomberg when he passed the tax and banned cigarette smoking indoors, now I thank the guy for saving my life. Good job. Anyway, arguing doesn't matter, many local gov'ts are already instituting soda taxes. It's a smart thing to do politically because the companies can't act easily on a local level, and many of these communities are desperate for cash after the massive mess we had the past few years. So whine all you want. But it's coming! Maybe you need to join the tea baggers!
HFCS is basically poison and soda is filled with tons of pesticides. I think if the truth ever comes out, it will show that soda is more dangerous to society than smoking. If you must have a soft drink, purchase soda with organic sugar or stevia, but get rid of the mainstream sodas asap. If everyone did this and drank soda in moderation along with water, we wouldn't have to fret about health care so much. However, I think taxing it is wrong, unproductive, and foolish. As long as a member of society isn't harming someone else, that person is not committing a crime and shouldn't be penalized for it. Let the free market decide instead.
i'll raise my hand. i wouldn't use the term 'pissed'. but i think it is dumb that alchohol/cigarettes are legal, but weed isn't. make it legal. junk food tax + legalized mar1juana... (light bulb) Are you implying that the two are like peas in a pod?
