lets be realistic here, at pick 9-11 in this years draft, the likelihood of us getting a stud starter is not too high...the dropoff in talent after the first five picks or so is GREAT... as a preamble, let me say this: i hate all things duke, and i think redick is a dick that being said, redick is the purest shooter ive seen in a loooong time (please lets hold off on the langdon comparisons), and hes got range out to 25 feet... people talk about him having no point guard skills...he wont play point for this team, tmac/skip/ANYONE else can handle that...and his defense is adequate enough for him to play the designated shooter role (a la korver, damon jones, eddie house, etc.)...defenses will not be focusing on him the way they did in his ncaa days (as kaleidosky said)...and plenty of 6-4 guards make it in this league (as moonnumack said) so i guess, to answer the question, i wouldnt hate it if we drafted redick, at best he turns into a taller hersey hawkins with more range and starts for us and gives us the deadeye shooter we so desperately need...at worst, hell be kyle korver...id rather we draft him than mirsad turkcan part 2
See, the problem I have with Rockets considering Redick is that you don't draft shooting specialists in the lottery. We're comparing our potential lottery pick to guys like Kyle Korver, Damon Jones and Eddie House, who were all late second-rounders or not drafted at all. While this draft is weak, most projections suggest that guys like Rodney Carney and Al Horford will likely be available when we pick. In their worst-case scenarios, they would be just as useful as Redick. However, they're best-cases offer far more. In addition, we desperately need size at guard. To draft another shorter guard with defensive deficiencies would be unwise unless we're sure it's a slam dunk. And obviously, Redick is not. Don't get me wrong, I think Redick will find himself a perfect niche in the NBA as a great 3pt threat off the bench. However, you don't draft specialty guys when your team is in the lottery. When we're in San Antonio's spot, we can start getting guys like him.
I can see the interest in Carney, but I don't think he's nearly as polished as Redick. And on this team that is looking to win now (next 3-4 years), I would rather take someone who is NBA-ready even if he may not have high as a ceiling as a less-proven player. Carney's really athletic, but I think we tend to get carried away by "athleticism" and "potential" (i.e. Darius Miles, Qyntel Woods, Freddie Jones, the entire Atlanta team) and sometimes lose sight of skills that translate into wins (shooting, leadership, etc.). In the tournament, it's true Redick mis-fired, but Carney kinda disappeared. Which is worse? Like Shaji said, Redick's got a pure stroke like few others in the last 10 years to enter the draft. Yeah, he's got flaws, but that's why he has a chance to fall to us. I'm not saying he's the sure choice now, but he's definitely high on the list at this point.
Ok, This topic has been beaten to a pulp but we can't seem to stop. Its like a sparrow trying to fly through a plate glass window over and over and over. The fact is Reddick is not a bad pick if your picking in the #20+ range of the draft. The comparisons to picking Head (both undersized senior 2G leaders from good teams) are valid except for the fact that we not going to be picking #24. If we were and we picked Reddick I would be perfectly happy with the pick. We spend our 1st rounder last year on an undersized 2G and I think we would be nuts to do it again especially considering we should be picking in the #8-12 range and our two best post players after Yao, Deke and JH are 40 and 33 years old. There are going to be players like Noah(carrying a team in the final 4), Sheldon Williams(defensive player of the year), Hilton Armstrong, even Pitsnoggle available when we pick and no matter how you slice it we need quality in the post next to Yao. Basically where we are in this draft is picking a player assuming that Mcgrady is going to be back next season. If you make that assumption then the perimeter players we have will be good enough. The post players may not be and will not be in the future. If McGrady does not play next season then we are in trouble and will be back in the loto probably with a higher pick than we have now and we can draft a potential star perimeter player then. As badly as we need perimeter shooters now (without McGrady) we will be making a huge mistake if we pass on even a backup big (Pitsnoggle, Armstrong) or a potential starter (Williams, Noah) for a guy with as many limitations as Reddick.
I was all for taking Reddick before because I would love to have someone that can just park it and nail from the 3 point line. However....I think we can gets someone else that is useful in another area because I think we found our 3 point threat in Frahm. He's been shooting about 50% from the 3 point line over the past couple games which is great. I think an upgrade at the PF would be best. Don't get me wrong though, we still need help in the backcourt. If we can get some deadly shooters along side Yao for him to dump the ball out to it could get scary. Putting that w/ TMac coming back will be great.
The problem is that more than 50% of the time, teams picking in lottery are disappointed with what they get (down the road). For JJ, we know for sure that he has a great stroke behind the arc. And that is a great fit for a team that is in desperate need of any kind of consistent threat from 3 point land. You still trust CD and JVG's ability to draft a stud when given a 310 pick? The only time in the last 10 years when they were able to draft the right players were when they were handed with a top 2 pick. For the rest, it was a string of misses and disapointment.
JVG has only been here 3 years and last year was the only time we had a 1st round pick. Luther Head has been able to contribute this year and since we got him at #25 I would qualify that as a successful pick.
the "duke" in me wants JJ Reddick. The "Rockets" in me sees JJ as a one-dimensional type player that will get dominated by other more athletic guards in the NBA.
I was talking about lottery picks. After witnessing first hand how horrible the Rockets perimeter shooters are, I just want to get a pure shooter no matter what. There is no better pure shooter in college than that dick, white or red, or any color included.
I would not pick Reddick with my lottery pick. He is another undersized, easy to guard and cannot get off his own shot without multiple screens, non-athletic player who cannot guard my grandmother and she is dead! His addition will not improve the ROX, but will continue their poor decisions in the makeup of this losing roster.
I'd rather they draft Steve Novak in the lottery (and he's obviously not lottery material) before Reddick.
I am with you. Those people who promote Reddick never ever ever answer this kind of questions. They just kept promoting Reddick without looking into other players. It is sad.
Let me repeat, I am not promoting Redick, I repeat, I am not promoting Redick. But no, I have looked at other players and Redick isn't a bad choice. If JVG/CD picks Redick, then I feel they know he can fit in the system and I will place confidence in it.
If you trust this kind of thinking, Amare should not be picked at #9. Mobley was picked 2nd round, he is certainly better than lots of 1st rounders. JJ Redick certainly has the reputation due to the Duke program. If you switch teams between Gansey and Redick, you will see Redick can't even make the 2nd round.
