So we are gonna ignore the riot thats happening in Baltimore

Try this for "whatever reason":

By the way Bobby, that wasn't said by Marx or someone you would label "an animal", that was from the COO of the Baltimore Orioles.

You couple his analysis and observations with the fact that the two ruling parties have made peaceful reform and improvement impossible, there you have my "whatever reasons" for wanting a revolution.

 

Well good luck with that Mr. Fawkes, your revolution probably won't be televised, or even happen at all, but rage on.

 

Quick question.

Is it me or are the majority of these incidents coming from north of the mason dixon line.

 

Hmmm ruled a homicide.

http://news.yahoo.com/video/abc-news-plus-special-report-220000361.html

 

It will be ruled a homicide.

The situation is a lot more complicated than.... "Thugs" or "oppressed"..... this isn't a black or white issue.

 

True but there are some on here who believe that is the only reason that the people are marching.

 

Second degree murder? Sounds more like negligence. Unless an officer or officers directly assaulted him, I don't see them proving second degree murder. I suppose the negligence is about not having the prisoner appropriately restrained. More likely manslaughter.

 

https://twitter.com/WNTonight/status/594158768058949632

 

Action that demonstrates a "callous disregard for human life" and results in death. In most states, depraved-heart killings constitute second-degree murder.

I think you can make a case for that.

 

Thanks for posting. Wow! I will wait for the details, however, on face, this seems over the top.

 

Given all the assault charges, I think they are going to argue that officers beat him. If they did, I think forensics would probably be able to tell the difference between injuries from a beatdown and self-inflicted injuries from knocking about in a vehicle. Or have I been watching too much CSI?

 

Gray suffered a "severe and critical neck injury" as a result of being handcuffed, shackled and being unrestrained in the van.

Mosby said an investigation found officers placed Gray in wrist and ankle restraints and left him stomach-down on the floor of a police van as they drove around West Baltimore. Despite his repeated requests for medical attention, they did not provide it and continued to drive without securing him in the van, she said.

Officers on at least five occasions placed Gray in the van or checked on him and failed to secure him, she said. By the time they reached the Western District police station, he was not breathing and was in cardiac arrest, she said.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/ma...e-gray-mosby-presser-0502-20150501-story.html

If this is true I think the murder charge is warranted. How about we just put the officers in the same position and drive them around town and see what happens. If they did put him face down with cuffs on and drove him around I think all the cops should have murder charges.

 

Totally agree

Secondly, J.R. you are always on point with tweets! Good stuff

 

In judicial circles the indictment in this case is called "throwing the book," which always seems sexy at the time. But, you better be able to present some pretty compelling evidence. If the officers beat him, it will stick. If they were negligent, the more serious charges will lose their luster upon careful examination. The empirically supported "facts" will tell the story.

 

They might also be hoping that a few of the officers charged will roll over on the others by "throwing the book" at all of them.

 

I think you are right, forensics should be "easy" to make the determination of whether they beat him or not.

 

Yes, you have a point. Some charged may become witnesses.

 

Rummy's down.

 

No matter what the reason he was being taken in, he should have been secured. No argument of the neglect here.

Regardless of how stupid I think the rioting and looting, race card, and now crying about a word(thug) these police procedures need to be fixed. There's no excuse for not securing Gray.

I still won't label all police officers as crooked and power hungry, but the bad officers need to be dealt with with a heavy hand IMO. Too much of this stuff going around.

 

Over the top? A man commited no crime (his knife was not a switchblade) and died in custody after multiple pleas for a medic were ignored. The police behavior is what's over the top. Anyone involved in this deserves severe punishment.

Not to mention that Bmore police have used the restrained-and-unsecured-prisoner-in-a-truck trick in the past.

Kudos for charging these scumbags.