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So much for AB being the best player on this team

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by spookyoldtree, Oct 30, 2010.

  1. leebigez

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    Yao has been one of the best offensive rebounder in the league. Rebounding is about anticipation,angles,and desire. It doesn't matter how high yao can jump because he can stand straight up and ttouch the rim. When he doesn't get the ball or isn't rolling scoring, he normally doesn't do anythin else. I've also said that for years. As a big man, you can change the game by more ways than just posting up. Yao sets great picks and is very good on the interior defensively. If he's not getting the ball, he can lean into someone and get them out of position under the rim and get offensive rebounds. What i know is basketball and thats what alot of posters on this board dont understand.
     
  2. crash5179

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    I agree. AB most certainly did not loose this game tonight.

    The Rockets shot over 45% and the Nuggz shot 37%. Defense was good. Offense was good inside the arc where the Rockets scored over 50 points in the paint and shot over 50%. A team will win the fast majority off it's games if they continue to play like that.

    It seemed like every call went the Nuggz way even when it was painfully clear that it was a bad call. See the no call on Kyle Lowry that earned him 4 stitches. See the goaltending call that was reversed on Chuck Hayes when replay's show that it was clearly goal tending.

    Two things resulted in this loss. The major disparity in Free Throw attempts due to very pore officiating and the fact that the Rockets could not hit a damn 3. Not coaching and not Aaron Brooks.
     
  3. DaDakota

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    Exactly, they just missed shots they normally make.....those 3s were wide open....WIDE STINKING OPEN.....


    A-fricken men !

    DD
     
  4. MightyMog

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    Umm that would be true if the Rockets take shots with Yao underneath the basket to get an offensive rebound..............

    If they going to run and chuck shots, you need a mobile Center. Since they can't find one, they should adopt to the situation not force up poor jumpers when the shot clock is at 20 seconds.... 7 seconds or less is not this teams Motto.
     
  5. DaDakota

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    It was last year, and that is the problem.........

    DD
     
  6. DallasThomas

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    Terrible thread, terrible discussion.

    Not that I'm adding anything to that, but I just wanted to check in and let you all know that I'm not a knee-jerking, short-sighted bandwagoner like so many here apparently are.
     
  7. abcd1234

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    Scola and Yao should be the man with the game on the line. Post them up, pick and pop, whatever it takes get them the ball.

    Scola is an experienced vet, if you watched him over the summer, you know he has that takeover ability, and he's putting up MVP like numbers.

    Yao is said to be the "man" on this team, but I think his minute situation takes him out of the flow of the game. He needs to step up and takeover with the game on the line, Yao's +/- last night was ridiculous, -19 i think. Thats something you don't want to see from your star.

    Adelman likes to go to Brooks when the game is on the line, and I understand that, since he came through at times last year, but when AB is off, he is off, I would put Lowry in, and let him feed Scola and Yao. I'm ok with losing when we give the ball to our go to guys with the game on the line, instead of AB throwing up bricks from 26 feet.
     
  8. Doctor Robert

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    On the subject of Brooks - three games does not make a career, and Aaron and the team played better in those 3 games than an 0-3 record would indicate.

    I don't see the point of labeling Brooks the "best on the team" or not. His strengths and weaknesses are known, and he has proven himself capable despite his weaknesses. My personal opinion is that he doesn't need to be as aggressive this year throughout the first 3 quarters of the game because we have more weapons (particularly Martin), so he will need to contribute more on defense (Ariza gone). That said, he may be small, but he is blazing fast. He is going to have problems against the big point guards in the league roughing him up, but that blazing speed is not only an offensive asset. It can be used for team defense. He can disrupt the passing lanes, he can get steals, he can play good on-the-ball and full-court defense. It is up to him, and I think he needs to play both sides of the ball this year.

    In my opinion, the ONLY factor in deciding Brooks's future on the team is "Will he help us win a championship?". I think the answer is YES. I believe the only true test of a player is a 7 game playoff series, and the last time the Rockets did that was against the soon-to-be-NBA-Champions. In that series, Brooks BURNED the Lakers in the 4th quarters. I thought he was primarily responsible for getting the most difficult points in that series when the Lakers were playing their best defense. Without him, it would not have been close.

    Before you panic about the record and start blaming everything that walks, think about what it will take to win the championship. Do you think ANYONE is going to beat the Lakers and/or Heat at their own game??? Do you think adding Melo will help us beat Bryant, Gasol, James, Wade, and Bosh? Somehow I doubt it. Even if we sign Melo, he isn't going to beat those guys. Whoever beats those teams will have to go over, under, and around them. The Rockets have Yao and speed at their disposal. We need to win big at the 1 and 5 matchups.
     
  9. sew

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    I still believe in AB, but his decision making last night was ****.

     
  10. DaDakota

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    Sew,

    Scola scored a lot in transition and on putbacks....not so much on post ups.

    DD
     
  11. wekko368

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    Yao's rebounding abilities are based on being at the right spot at the right time. He lacks the mobility to go to the ball and relies on the ball coming to him. It doesn't matter how high he can reach if he's not in the right position.


    So when he doesn't get the ball, he doesn't do anything except play good interior defense?

    You may understand the big picture (i.e. the importance of rebounds), but you're oblivious to so many obvious things that it looks like you're ignorant (i.e. the mobility of a 7'6 center).

    And in that scenario you just described, I'd guess that the refs would call a loose ball foul on Yao at least 80% of the time.
     
  12. sew

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    You're right, but one play stood out to me last night.

    Scola was hot and was posting up on the block ready for a post entry pass (4th quarter, game was still close) but instead, AB launches a 25 ft, semi contested 3 pointer - which he bricks, and then Denver scores on the other end. That seuqence right there could have CHANGED the entire outcome of the entire game.
     
  13. ArtV

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    And I voted that Battier was going to be the fans whipping boy...Wrong again...

    Looks like Aaron's contract year is messing up his game. I think he's trying too hard to make his worth be known which is backfiring. He needs to focus on what the team needs to do to win. The rest will take care of itself.
     
  14. devin23

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    I've been saying awhile ago that he was a much faster mike james but no one believed me. -_- Brooks really is a 6th man type of player. He's not good enough defensively to be a start IMO.
     
  15. dontknowa

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    Originally Posted by DaDakota
    If Yao wants the ball at 7'6" then he should go get every fricken rebound......

    DD

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    If Yao is like D. Howard, then yes, he should go get every rebound himself. But Yao is Yao. He's 7'6, but he can't jump. God would not make a perfect man. D. Howard can jump, but he can't shoot like Yao. I think Yao is doing very good at rebounding so far with the 2 games he played. He got 11 rebounds in the first game against laker and 6 rebounds in the game against Nugget IN 24 MINS. I think that's a impressing stat considering this is only the 2 games that he played after being out for 15 months.
     
  16. rox81

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    I agree. He's not the best player on this team. But the subject line of this thread was written as if it's widely assumed he is the best player on this team. Who ever said that? (Not being confrontational, just asking.)

    Before the season began, I think you could've made arguments for three different players being our best: Scola, K-Mart, and Yao. (I would've vehemently disagreed if you said Yao, but I understand he'd have got a lot of votes.)

    Brooks? Streaky shooter, ultra-quick, no defense, a work-in-progress at best. Maybe a great sixth man someday in the vein of Vinnie Johnson of the '80s Pistons.

    Who said AB was best on our team? S/he must've not been watching the Rox very much.
     
  17. T-Slack

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    Yao being in there clogging up the middle is really messing with his groove. Cause now he has to share the ball with 3 different people.
     
  18. Dwight Shrute

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    I believe Brooks is best served as a 6th man.... In a role like J.Crawford or J.Terry....I am also not sold on Lowry as the starter...I still think we have not found are starting point...unless Brooks improves his defense or Lowry improves his shooting touch
     
  19. jj3469

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    so we are blaming brooks and lowry was 0 for 7.... i have a love hate relationship with clutchfans, love the info but so many stupid posters. win as a team loose as a team
     
  20. rockets934life

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    AB lovers MAKE so many dam excuses for the guy, I like the guy but he WAS NEVER MEANT to be the best player on this team. He is a point guard who can shoot but if he doesn't shoot well what else can he do? His decision making skills are limited, he doesn't play defense and the guy gets flustered pretty easily. I have hope AB can evolve into a Steve Nash type and I am not blaming him for everything that is going on but he does have his share of the blame. We need a floor general, someone that when things are crumbling around him will bring his group together and AB just doesn't have that quality.
     

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