So it begins - Opposition to Mosque Projects Across America

rocketsjudoka · Aug 12, 2010

basso said:

Islam, religion of piece of ass...

[rquoter]So, the Muslim investors championing the construction of the new mosque near Ground Zero claim it's all about strengthening the relationship between the Muslim and non-Muslim world.

As an American, I believe they have every right to build the mosque - after all, if they buy the land and they follow the law - who can stop them?

Which is, why, in the spirit of outreach, I've decided to do the same thing.

I'm announcing tonight, that I am planning to build and open the first gay bar that caters not only to the west, but also Islamic gay men. To best express my sincere desire for dialogue, the bar will be situated next to the mosque Park51, in an available commercial space.

This is not a joke. I've already spoken to a number of investors, who have pledged their support in this bipartisan bid for understanding and tolerance.

As you know, the Muslim faith doesn't look kindly upon homosexuality, which is why I'm building this bar. It is an effort to break down barriers and reduce deadly homophobia in the Islamic world.

The goal, however, is not simply to open a typical gay bar, but one friendly to men of Islamic faith. An entire floor, for example, will feature non-alcoholic drinks, since booze is forbidden by the faith. The bar will be open all day and night, to accommodate men who would rather keep their sexuality under wraps - but still want to dance.

Bottom line: I hope that the mosque owners will be as open to the bar, as I am to the new mosque. After all, the belief driving them to open up their center near Ground Zero, is no different than mine.

My place, however, will have better music.
For investment information, contact me at dailygut.com[/rquoter]

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I would support the building of a gay bar next to the Mosque on similar grounds that I support the building of the Mosque. That said I would like to hear Sarah Palin, Newt Gingrich and other social conservatives who are arguing that Ground Zero is sacred ground feel about a gay bar serving alcohol near Ground Zero.

rocketsjudoka · Aug 12, 2010

AroundTheWorld said:

I didn't even read the "hate-filled rhetoric". But harping on Muslims' intolerance does not deflect from the topic of this thread: People oppose the spread of Islam because Islam as it is currently practiced in many countries of the world simply contains unacceptable elements of intolerance which are incompatible with the freedoms of the western world.
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So you are using intolerence among Muslims to justify intolerance of Muslims?

According to the US Constitution one of the fundamental freedoms is freedom of religion.

AMS · Aug 12, 2010

All this hoopla reminds me of the Katy Pig Races... http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,241897,00.html

AroundTheWorld · Aug 12, 2010

rocketsjudoka said:

So you are using intolerence among Muslims to justify intolerance of Muslims?

According to the US Constitution one of the fundamental freedoms is freedom of religion.
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I dunno, I just drank half a bottle of Johnny Walker and ate some pork (I think), but I am wondering how someone of your intelligence can spell the same word correctly and incorrectly within the same post .

AroundTheWorld · Aug 12, 2010

Mathloom said:

As for dude in the picture, I'm part Turkish and part Arab and work at a regulator lol why wouldn't I hear about him?
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You work at a regulator in Dubai? So are you the one who is trying to prohibit use of Blackberries in Dubai?

rhadamanthus · Oct 12, 2010

What a wonderful example we are for our children....

Muslim teen beaten, called a 'terrorist' by classmates says he stayed silent out of fear

A Muslim boy says four bullies made his life a living hell in the halls of a Staten Island public school, calling him a "terrorist" and beating him every chance they got.

The victim, a 16-year-old high school freshman, told his father and the police of the constant abuse he endured, prompting the arrests Sunday of his teen tormenters on suspicion of hate crimes.

"[They] punched me in my groin, and I fell to the floor. They started kicking me, and calling me 'You f---in' terrorist,' 'You f---in' Muslim,'" the victim, Kristian, told the Daily News.

Word of Kristian's emotionally scarring ordeal comes during a disturbing spike in hate crimes across the city, highlighted by Friday's sadistic Bronx gang torture of two teens and an adult because they were gay.

Kristian - his voice shaky, his hands clenched in his lap - and his parents spoke to The News on grounds their last name not be used.

The boy, the American-born, only child of Trinidadian immigrants, said the abuse began in October 2009 while he was a student at the Edwin Markham Intermediate School. He said the almost-daily abuse didn't end until he graduated from the school in June.

He finally told his father when he began his freshman year last month at Port Richmond High School and saw two of the bullies sitting in one of his classes; he hasn't returned to class since.

"I think I can't go through a year like this again," said the soft-spoken victim, who first told his story to the Staten Island Advance.

The four suspects - three 14-year-old Latinos and a 15-year-old African-American - were arrested on charges of assault and aggravated harassment - both as hate crimes. They were all released to their parents and are expected to be formally charged as early as today as minors. Their names were not made public.

Kristian said the bullying began when the thugs first called him gay and quickly escalated to him being battered for his Muslim heritage and blamed for terrorist bombings.

"I was very scared that if I told the teachers...they would beat me up more," Kristian said.

He said he remained silent, hoping and praying they would stop.

"It kept going on," he said. "The kids were in my class and they would see me in the halls."

He said one of the teen thugs brazenly attacked him in class, in front of a teacher.

"[He] touched me here and here," he said, pointing to his left elbow and forehead.

The teacher scolded the menace, saying, "'Why did you do that for? He's a good boy. Leave him alone. Why do you keep bothering him?'"

Outside of class, things got worse.

"Four kids punched me everywhere. They would spit in my face, and kick and punch me. I had injuries," Kristian said.

Once he was kicked so hard he had blood in his urine and had to go and see his doctor.

His father, whose first name is Shaffiate, said Kristian, a once-promising student and gifted piano player, has given up music and his grades have suffered.

"He's afraid to go outside alone," the father said.

The family wants him transferred to a new school.
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ipaman · Oct 12, 2010

God=Allah=Yahweh=Jehova, SIGH...

We should oppose God, maybe this ignorance would go away.

rocketsjudoka · Oct 12, 2010

rhadamanthus said:

What a wonderful example we are for our children....
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Its a terrible story but given that the kids who bullied him initially called him "gay" before they started accusing him of being a terrorist I think this might not be a hate crime, in the sense that they were specifically singling him out because of his race, creed or orientation. My speculative guess is that this is a rather slight shy kid and these guys are high school bullies that do what high school bullies do, prey on slight shy kids. Calling him "gay" or "terrorist" was just their excuse to justify to themselves their bullying.

glynch · Oct 12, 2010

Just another hate binge to appease a major wing of the GOP. Hatred has slipped a bit for Blacks and surprisingly gays recently. Recently I think a few of this block are starting to realize that the folks controlling the GOP/conservative movement really don't care too much about Jesus or aborted babies so you have to give them something else to distract them.

Keeps the yahoos voting for the party of the rich; also keeps them voting to keep the military industrial complex humming. A two-fer how can Newt and gang lose?

How anybody intelligent or moderate can roll with todays GOP is beyond me.

Refman can you speak to this?

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