completely unworkable, RR. you're going to tell EVERYONE they HAVE to have a will??? if you can get that done, i'll give you 10% of my firm's estate planning business.
If you believe voting yes on Prop 2 actually provides tremendous benefit to anyone who is a resident of Texas and is gay, you are out of your freaking mind.
Then you should vote FOR prop 2. It allows you to make a legal designation for someone (anyone! not just a gay lover!) to have access to your inheritance, visitation rights, and life insurance. CORRECTION: It seems that these rights are available WITHOUT needing prop 2
prop 2 doesn't allow for that!! we already have laws on the books that allow for that. prop 2 doesn't affect those one way or the other.
i'm thinking about it. part of my practice is in estate planning. and i have no idea what you're saying.
Really? Then what does this mean?: SECTION 2. This state recognizes that through the designation of guardians, the appointment of agents, and the use of private contracts, persons may adequately and properly appoint guardians and arrange rights relating to hospital visitation, property, and the entitlement to proceeds of life insurance policies without the existence of any legal status identical or similar to marriage.
Deckard, I guess every coin has two sides. Let me tell a little of my story. I grew up in the Leave It to Beaver '50s. My parents divorced when I was 14 yrs old and it ripped us apart. My brother and sister have not recovered to this day. I ended up bitter and angry, an alcoholic and drug addict. Few of any of my friends shared this experience. My wife grew up in a very difficult home where her parents slept in separate bedrooms and wouldn't divorce simply because of the Catholic church. My wife didn't have it easy, but she had her parents at home and it meant alot to her. Unless you went through a divorce as a child be careful speaking with authority. I council many troubled marriages and I can't begin to tell you the damage and deep wounds left from divorce especially in the children. I have seen a pretty large and close up sample of both situations I mentioned in 25 years of church ministry. And what is wrong with a mother who is willing to suffer for the sake and benefit of her own children. I watched my mother suffer many sacrifices, humiliations, and abuses both as a single parent and as an unhappy wife. My mother would have stayed in that marriage for me. My Dad walked out the door one day and didn't come back. Staying in a hard marriage if physically possible has many benefits for the children if we are willing to pay that price for them. I wouldn't call it Utopia, but it would be hard to convince me that divorce is better for children than a very rough marriage unless there is threat of physical harm to the children or extreme emotional abuse by both parents. They must get out of the house if that is the threat. A bad marriage is horrible for the children, a divorce is even more damaging. I understand your points, but please listen I am dealing with two families in a divorce crisis right now and the children are going to suffer greatly.
Yes, if you go to the trouble of arranging it legally. Heterosexual couples don't have to go through that hassle - simply getting married provides that protection.
Okay. If gay spouses can currently gain legal access to estates, life insurance, and visitation rights, then prop 2 does NOT help gay relationships in any way. And maybe that'll make people re-think their vote. What sparked my posting here were the statements by dylan and No Worries that voting for proposition 2 sould prevent gay spouses from having those rights, when in fact, that is not the case.
Let's read a little further....from the PDF file from Harris County: "...this will neither be part of the Amendment nor in any statute" In other words, current law provides for it, but it will not be in the state constitution. Only bigotry against gays will be in the state constitution. The ONLY thing Prop 2 does is outlaw gay marriage. It's an attempt to legislate hate. If you don't want a gay marriage, don't have one. I'm voting NO.
Is bestiality legal? Pedophilia? How about Incest? There are many more sexual orientations that we are leaving out of these discussions. Why can't someone marry his daughter who's in the 2nd grade? Pedophilia is one of the fastest growing orientations out there. Who knows in a few more years it may overtake the popularity of sodomy.
That's from the county. Is it city and county laws that you and MadMax are referring to (that provide these rights to gay spouses), or state laws?
