So if Yates takes us to the AFC championship game, do we trade Schaub?

It really doesn't matter how many more games he wins. Fact is, right now, Schaub is a better QB. Reason why Yates is winning is because of our D and running game. He's stepping up to the challange, don't get me wrong, but Schaub is still a better QB at this point.

 

Why would they trade him? He's cheap labor. And while I don't think there's any reason to be overly concerned about Schaub's health long-term, this year has proven a quality back-up is mandatory. Ask the Colts. Or Bears.

 

Sell high, a la Matt Cassel.

Kubiak and Co seem to be a QB factory, hell, Delhomme came in on a couple weeks notice and played well.

Yates is expendable, especially if Matt is healthy.

 

If he leads us to the super bowl and win while putting up 11-20 and less than 200 passing yards, the serious discussion would be how much we'll need to pay Arian Foster in the offseason. The serious discussion would be whether to pay Wade Phillips HC money so he stays. The serious discussion would be whether the entire OLine should be voted into the pro bowl next year. The serious discussion would be whether the Texans will be looking at Packer-level regular season next year.

The serious discussion would still not be about Yates starting over Schaub.

 

Yates will be our #2 next year. Schaub has had many injuries in his career so Yates has a great chance of becoming our starter again. I don't think Yates provides, at this stage in his career, the Texans with the gun power to keep pace with a team like the Patriots, something Schaub can do.

 

I love Yates, but like others have mentioned, he hasn't played well enough to merit a QB controversy. Best thing he's done is play just good enough to keep defenses from stacking the line to stop the run. And when they do, he can take advantage of one-on-one coverage for an occasional big gain (when he doesn't miss wide open receivers streaking down the field).

If Schaub was 100%, the Texans would be 14-3 right now and everyone (including myself) would be picking them for the Superbowl.

 

i'm happy for Yates and like the kid but this topic is just insane.

 

This.

Let Yates learn behind Schaub.

 

No, they would still be 13-3.

 

I picked the "Never" option. Here's why...

If Yates wins in Baltimore, I think we'll still believe in what we already know... We have a young backup quarterback that is capable of winning games. I think Schaub comes back next year, and we see where we can go. I don't think Yates is ready to be the franchise guy, but I think he has some great teachers to learn behind. Give Yates another two or three years to learn behind Schaub, and we can better evaluate if we want him to be our franchise guy. If he's not, you trade him for a pick. If we can get something like what we gave for Schaub, I would be thrilled.

 

Good point.

If anyone on this roster should be worried, it's Matt Leinart...not Matt Schaub.

 

Matt Leinart is not worried, every city has hot tubs.

 

i'm surprised to see this post from you. IIRC, you were big supporter of Yates and didn't think Schaub could get the job done.

 

No I know Schaub could have gotten it done, but Yates has more potential. Not good for us now, but Yates can still show us stuff this next game and hopefully beyond that. Depends on how the Texans win.

 

All of the posts comparing Yates to Brady are stupid. Yates isn't anything like Brady. Yates plays like another quarterback that came from nowhere and replaced Bledsoe: Tony Romo. You wouldn't replace Matt Schaub in his prime with a rookie Tony Romo unless you have to, but you'd love to have him on the bench.

 

I am going to reserve a definite feeling until after the Baltimore game, but what I like about Yates so much is his commitment to learn (kubiak stated he has mastered the playbook/terminology so quick) and realize he can improve on mistakes..Yates can and will only get better with more gametime. He had a nice solid game ( 97 QBR compared to a 55 QBR for Dalton) ...On the near int., Yates said "I made a mistake" - not easy for QB's to admit.. We have to have Yates continue to progress and I think he will do that.

If Yates takes us to the AFC championship deciding game . . .um ..

 

Yates will need to have a great game against the ravens, and then duplicate that against the Patriots (win or lose) for there to be a QB contraversy. The last 3 losses in a row (actually the 2 before that more so since Yates didn't play against Indy) really hurt him as far as there being a question weather he would replace Schuab. At this point, nothing short of a Super Bowl pretty much.

 

Cassel had a really good year; Yates has been perfectly average, if not slightly below-average. Big difference. And Cassel only netted a single 2 in trade. No one is giving us a 2 for TJ Yates.

Let's tap the brakes; they deserve a load of credit for Schaub - but he was a highly thought-of QB to begin with. Other than that, they've had fleeting moments from Rosenfels and Yates - that's about it.

I don't know how, after watching starter after starter after starter go down with injury, a decent, cheap back-up who knows the system and has (likely) earned the coaches' trust is expendable. Yates as our back-up is worth more than a 4th round pick. Or even a 3rd pick, frankly - especially if you think he could be QB1 down the road. Schaub has a year left onm his deal, right?

 

Then the discussion ends right there, we're not trading him unless his stock is significantly higher than his value to us.

Every QB who has come into Houston leaves with good things to say about Gary and Greg. I think if you took a survery, I'd bet Houston is considered to have the best QB coaching in the NFL. I have faith that they could find another serviceable QB for about the same money rather quickly. They might already have one in Jake the Snake, even.

Because Yates hasn't exactly set the world on fire. If somebody wants to overpay us for him, then fine by me. Especially if Matt is healthy. But obviously that isn't going to happen. Unless Al Davis comes back from the dead. (Kidding, moes)

 

First I want to say Schaub is a better quarterback, but if Yates wins the superbowl I think trading Schaub should be up for debate.<p>I personally didn't see anything special from Schaub. Yes he does play better than Yates, but he has been in this system a while. He has a weak arm, and misses alot of recievers by under throwing the ball on long passes or throwing at their feet on short passes. Normally those plays could be touchdowns or long pass plays, but the adjustments Andre and OD has to make on the ball takes the extra yardage away.<p>Comparing stats is not fair because obviously Kubiac has put the shackles on TJ and maybe for good reason, but he doesn't get to throw as many passes as Schaub. The completion and interception percentage is pretty much the same (Schaub 61.0 & 2.1, TJ 61.2 & 2.2). Schaub has more yards/gm, a higher QB rating and more TD's/gm with 7 more pass attempts/gm. I wonder what TJ would do with those attempts, more yardage/ more TD's or maybe more INT's, who knows?<p>Let's not forget TJ is a rookie that did not have the luxury of a full training camp. Take a look at TJ's stats, Peyton Manning rookie stats, and Tom Brady 2nd yr stats.<p> http://www.nfl.com/player/t.j.yates/2508123/careerstats<p> http://www.nfl.com/player/peytonmanning/2501863/careerstats<p> http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/careerstats<p>I'm not trying to compare TJ to Peyton nor Brady, just making the point that Peyton rookie season and Brady 2nd year (when he took over for Bledsoe) was not mind blowing numbers. And they had training camps (Brady had 2).