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[SNL] Ashley Simpson....

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Summer Song Giver, Oct 23, 2004.

  1. Surfguy

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    We're they even really playing their instruments, though? I mean...they were playing them but if they were actually playing back the recorded song...then maybe we weren't getting their signal but the recorded signal. Then, the whole band would be lip synching and instrument synching. :D
     
  2. Nick

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    They were... they only started to play PoM to cover up the vocals that were mistakenly played (imagine if the band didn't do anything... there would be nothing but Ashlee's recorded vocals... THAT would have been hillarious).

    Also, if it was the drummers fault, then I'm guessing this is pure sabotage.

    Honestly... he looked into the song from the start... even if it was wrong. And, the guitar and bass players sure had a good laugh before SNL cut away.

    Maybe they're gunnin for their own record deal.
     
  3. Surfguy

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    I was watching some MTV hoopla where Ashley was rehearsing this song and she could not do it. Her voice was just way off. The band would start playing and she kept stopping it because she was way off key and sounded horrible. Then, she sounded horrible at the MTV awards. So, I can understand her wanting to lip synch. The bottom line is if you can play the song in the studio for the album...then you have to be able to sing the song live. I bet they spent more than a ton of hours on that album getting those songs right. No telling what they did to pretty the vocals up. Now, they can't play them live worth a crap. That is my summary.

    She has to either prove she can sing live with no lip synching or she should call it quits.
     
  4. Nuggets4

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    Pro Tools has been both a blessing and a curse in life.
     
  5. KingCheetah

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    Allemande your corner, dosido your own I say,
    With the corner do a star thru, and a half sashay.
    Now cross trail, go all the way around the set
    You star promenade that girl around.
    Girls step out and backtrack, same one a dosido and then you
    Left allemande then, come home, promenade.
    Ya promenade 'em, it's up the river we go.



    :D
     
  6. ima_drummer2k

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    You know what Surfguy? I think you are exactly right. I just watched it again (I just can't get enough) and as soon as the drummer starts playing, the rest of the band (including Ashlee) looks at him like WTF? The drummer is the only one playing for the first few bars as the rest of the band tries to figure out what just happened.

    Then, if you watch the drummer, he looks down to his right as if maybe he was looking at the wrong song or something. Maybe he had some sort of trigger that set off the vocals and he hit the wrong one? He was clearly playing the drums to the song they sang first.
     
  7. Surfguy

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    Exactly. I was about to post that the drummer could have a pedal or something that triggers the vocal track based on when he starts the song. I came to that assumption about the drummer because they knew something was wrong even before the PoM vocal track kicked in. Ashley stopped dancing at one point looking clueless and then started again. The guitarist on the left is staring at the drummer the whole time.

    I think what you and I have said is exactly what happened.
     
  8. ima_drummer2k

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    And the bass player plays one note, then stops. Everyone looks confused except the drummer.
     
  9. Smokey

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    Someone is gonna get fired for exposing her as a fraud. What if the drummer did it on purpose? HAHAHA :D
     
  10. Surfguy

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    What makes it even funnier is once the vocal track started you couldn't stop it. It had to run it's course. Then you have the mixer guy controlling the volume on the vocal track not knowing what to do. I mean...you would think they could have just stopped and said "Let's try this again with the right song." but they could not. So, one mistake led to the outing of her lip synching...if you couldn't tell anyway on the first song where her vocals were flawless giving it all away anyway. F*cking great stuff! :D
     
  11. drapg

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    God I freakin' love TiVO!!!!

    I just watched my tivo'd copy after reading this thread.

    how could she blame her band? at least they kept playing while she walked off the stage!
     
  12. MR. MEOWGI

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    I say screw the "band" too. F them all.



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  13. Surfguy

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    Okay...I have changed my opinion of what really happened during the second song. The drummer wasn't even playing the first few bars of the song after it had already started and you could hear the drums. He only came in a few seconds into the wrong song. So, he didn't start the problem in my opinion. Whomever kicked off this drum/vocal track caused the problem. The drummer started to play along and then the rest of the band joined in to try and salvage the set. It is now clear that there was a vocal track that had the first few seconds of the drums as some sort of queue-in to the song. There is a transition that occurs between the recorded drums and the real drums. He is likely getting a click track in his ear piece and he starts playing to that click track. So, the drummer didn't start it at all, thus, making Ashlee's apology even more lame and wrong.
     
  14. Behad

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    More, including a bit about the drums:

    Did 'SNL' Gaffe Expose Simpson Vocal Aid?
    Sunday October 24 4:57 PM ET


    Singer Ashlee Simpson's "extra help" may have been exposed when a "Saturday Night Live" audience heard her voice singing the wrong song while she held a microphone at her waist.

    Her record company blamed a computer glitch and she blamed her band for Sunday morning's incident, which cut off her planned performance of the song "Autobiography" on the network comedy show.

    Simpson had performed her hit single "Pieces of Me" without incident earlier in the show. When she came back a second time, her band started playing and the first lines of her singing "Pieces of Me" could be heard again.


    She looked momentarily confused as the band plowed ahead with the song and the vocal was quickly silenced.

    Simpson made some exaggerated hopping dance moves, then walked off the stage 35 seconds into the performance. NBC quickly cut to a commercial.

    "What can I say?" guest host Jude Law said with Simpson standing next to him at the end of the show. "Live TV."

    "Exactly," Simpson said. "I feel so bad. My band started playing the wrong song. I didn't know what to do so I thought I'd do a hoe-down."

    Her record company, Geffen Records, said there was a computer glitch. Instead of some pretaped electronic percussion, the recording of "Pieces of Me" started mistakenly performing, the record company said in a statement.

    But it sounded suspiciously like a guide vocal that's a common although almost always unspoken concert aid. Either the singer "lip synchs" by mouthing words to a backing tape or has a live microphone and sings along to the tape, making the voice sound more powerful than it is.

    Such vocal tricks have been used before on the show, making "Saturday Night Live" not entirely live, said a show insider who spoke on condition of anonymity.

    A Geffen spokeswoman did not immediately return a call for comment.

    Simpson's walk-off joins the lore of other unexpected music moments on "SNL": Elvis Costello stopping and changing songs on live TV, and Sinead O'Connor tearing up a picture of the pope.
     
  15. KingCheetah

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    "Exactly," Simpson said. "I feel so bad. My band started playing the wrong song. I didn't know what to do so I thought I'd do a hoe-down."
    _____________________________________

    A hoe-down for a ho down...
     
  16. Hobbs

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    I hope this finally marks the turn away from the pre-fab groups and back to real music. It's about time for that cycle to happen again for a while.
     
  17. Uprising

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    That was freakin strange. What the hell was that dance?! :confused:
     
  18. VesceySux

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    I just watched my recorded copy of the incident (thanks, Time Warner DVR!). Simply awesome. Words escape me.

    Ash-Me deserves every bit of the grief she's going to get. Most artists have to claw tooth and nail to make it big. This untalented hack rides her sister's coattails... and now she's on SNL. I don't feel bad for her at all.
     
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    The only thing I've ever wanted to see on Saturday Night Live over the past few years was when Sanz, Fallon, Morgan, and Katan perform that Christmas song ! I love it!!!

    Since all are gone I guess they cant do it anymore, so why watch?

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    Horatio Sanz: "I don't care what your momma says
    Christmas time is nee-ear!
    I don't care what your mama says-"

    Horatio & Jimmy: "Christmastime will soon be he-ere!"

    Horatio Sanz: "All I know is that Santa Claus
    don't care about breaking no flying laws.
    Santa's bringing goodies to the boys and girls
    in every nook and cranny in this crazy-ass world!"

    Horatio & Jimmy: "I wish it was Christmas todaa-ay!
    I wish it was Christmas todaa-ay!"

    Horatio Sanz: "I don't care about anything else.
    Christmastime is nea-ar."
    I don't care what anyone says
    Christmas is full of chee-eer.

    I don't care about the five o'clock news
    I don't care if our lights blow out a fuse!"

    Horatio & Jimmy: "I wish it was Christmas todaa-ay!
    In the good ol' U.S. of A.
    I wish it was Christmas todaa-ay!
    I wish it was Christmas todaa-ay!"
     

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