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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by Fatty FatBastard, May 14, 2009.

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    Maybe you had to be there? :confused:
     
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    And you never will -- ultra insider joke.
     
  3. Rashmon

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    I find that intravenous nicotine injections suppress my nicotine intake from cigarette smoking, but Njoy might be an additional alternative.

    I have the best success with a 14-hour infusion of deuterium-labeled nicotine dosed to achieve levels of nicotine similar to those while smoking cigarettes.

    Surprisingly, I found that intravenous nicotine did not significantly affect the number of cigarettes I smoked, but my nicotine intake was suppressed by an average of 24.6%.

    An added bonus was that I developed a tolerance to the toxic effects of nicotine as a consequence of the prolonged intravenous exposure. I can live with the increased heart rate and blood pressure and the urinary epinephrine excretion is tolerable.

    When I smoke during my injections of nicotine, there are no additional nicotine-related effects, despite the higher levels of nicotine.

    I may have to try this new stuff out, though.

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    http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/254/3/1000
     
  4. Deckard

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    Guess I'll relate how I quit. About 2 years before I did it, I told myself I'd quit on a particular birthday. In the back of my mind, I knew that was the day I'd go cold turkey, but I enjoyed smoking in the meantime and didn't worry about it until the day arrived. There was a huge party (I have a LOT of friends in Houston... more back then than now, lol. there's been some attrition) and I smoked until I passed out. Probably 2 packs. I lost count. When I woke up with a huge hangover, I was at peace with myself (myself, not the hangover), and I didn't pick up a cig again, excepting the times I mentioned where I was blown and my wife noticed and plucked them out of my mouth.

    It worked for me. My subconscious must have done all the work. Food for thought.
     
  5. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Oh, the possibilities....
     
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    LOL! I had celebratory sex after the game. Did you? Sex after every win!

    Go Rockets!
     
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    Good for you, FFB .

    Take care of yourself and enjoy life.

    Start calling yourself a non-smoker, and you can take on that identity. That is who you are.

    If you want to do something hypnotically, to get rid of this new thing, when that time comes, let me know, I can do that.
     
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    basically I got ultra trashed my night as a smoker.

    Got home around 6am and the only cigs I could find were two super old stale nasty french cigarettes - they were the perfect last cigarettes, it just shows how addicted you get to them. smoked those and went to sleep and have never smoked one since. I know if I take a puff, I might as well buy a carton, but I don't miss them.
     
  9. BrooksBall

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    Fatty,

    I just ordered the Njoy NPRO from the link you provided in the D&D thread. I suppose that is the manufacturer's site? It said it was out of stock and wouldn't ship for 3-5 weeks but I figured it was worth it based on your reactions to the product.

    By the way, did you try the menthol cartridges or another flavor?
     
  10. BrooksBall

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    Fatty, you still using the Njoy?

    I heard about another brand called Red Dragon. Have you heard about it or tried it?
     
  11. Fatty FatBastard

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    Still using it, but still smoking also, although I've cut down some. Trying Chantix in a week also.
     
  12. BrooksBall

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    I lost my credit card and had to cancel it before the order for the Njoy processed so I'll have to reorder it if I want to try it.

    You sound less enthusiastic about it now. I take it the product didn't live up to your initial impressions? Would you still recommend others to try it?
     
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    I purchased the Blu Cigs I mentioned earlier in this thread at http://www.blucigs.com/

    My order took 4 weeks because e-cigs are really popular right now. I didn't buy any cigarettes in the meantime and haven't been going out to bars and clubs, so I basically was able to suppress the Nicotine urge cold turkey.

    Once I finally got the Blu Cigs, I tried them out but it's not the same. My biggest complaint is that it's really hard to get a good drag/puff/whatever you want to call it. And the nicotine is not that strong, either. I ordered the full-flavored strenght cartridges; and they didn't feel as strong as the Parliament Lights/Marlboro Lights I usually smoked.

    So I basically gave them up, and just have them around for emergencies. I've only smoked them literally 3 times in the last 3 weeks.

    Now, hopefully, I can keep up the no-smoking when I'm wasted and out and about. :D
     
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    Sorry I meant to say my order took 2 weeks, but it felt like 4! :D
     
  15. Fatty FatBastard

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    Well, one of them didn't work, so when it runs out of juice, I have to recharge it.

    It does work, but I'm also going the Chantix way, as well. It's time to quit.
     
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    Not sure exactly what you're saying here. You have to recharge it regardless, right? Or is the battery just poor quality? I read some stuff about those kinds of issues.

    I still get the vibe that you aren't quite as enthused about the product as you were a few weeks ago. I guess I'll have to figure it out for myself. It's somewhat expensive but probably worth a shot.

    I hear the FDA and certain interest groups are trying to crack down on e-cigarettes. No surprise there. :rolleyes:
     
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    It sound nice but can't smokers just quit. To me that's the most simple and effective way, just stop freaking smoking for goddamit and that's it.

    Same goes for fast food, alcohol or any type of bad habit in your life.
     
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    That used to be my thinking too. Both of my parents smoked when I was growing up, and I would give them a hard time about it every once in a while, especially because they'd sometimes do it in the house and so I would end up stinking.

    The summer before my senior year of high school, I did sort of silly experiment (inspired by the movie Supersize Me) in which I smoked 4 packs of cigarettes over a two week period (my plan was to smoke a pack a day over that period, after the first day I realized it DEFINITELY wasn't going to happen), and I pretty much smoked at the same time of day at the same place. Then I stopped cold turkey.

    The next month or so was really, really miserable for me. Might've even been the next couple months, I don't really remember. I was pretty surprised, especially since I hadn't even smoked that much, and it was only for two weeks.

    I haven't smoked since, but four years later I still get a mild craving when I'm around people who smoke. It definitely changed the way I think about addiction. That's not to say I didn't give my folks an even harder time (and my mom in particular was PISSED, she had always lectured me about not smoking, which I thought was hypocritical), but I at least could see why it was so difficult for people who had smoked for 20+ years to not be able to just up and quit. And I'm not going lie, I'm a little concerned about how I'm going to handle cutting down on my alcohol consumption after I get out of school.

    (as a side note, I also noticed that you look a lot cooler when you smoke. I'm not being sarcastic here. I still haven't figured out why.)
     
  19. Fatty FatBastard

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    The best way I can describe Cigarette addiction has always been linked to hunger.

    We all "know" we can go a month without eating, yet we all pretty much eat daily.

    Hunger pangs are similar to smoking pangs. We "know" we don't need one, yet...

    I've been hearing a lot of good things about Chantix, though. My mom took it for two months and she says it helped her immensely.

    I get my prescription next week. That combined with the ecigs should hopefully keep me from smoking from everything but the most "social" situation. And if it gets me to that, good for me. I could care less about smoking an occasional from time to time.

    Yeah, it's about health and all, but baby steps are a good way to rationalize, IMO. And I will keep y'all updated. As the biggest cig addict here, it will be interesting to see how it works for me.
     
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    This decreases exponentially as you get older.
     

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