Smith, Charles Barkley, Magic all picked Amare as ROY

NO T-MAN YOU'RE THE IDIOT. I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT BARKELY OR JOHNSON BEING THE ONES THAT HAD LESS THAN MEMORABLE CAREERS, MAYBE SMITH CAUSE DREAM WAS THERE TO CARRY HIM. WHICH TWO ARE YAO'S BIGGEST SUPPORTERS? LEGLAR AND ELLIOT. HAHAHAHA IF YOU HAD WATCHES NBA 2 NIGHT LAST WEEK THEY BOTH SAID AMARE IS ROY. SO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. THEY MAY KNOW MORE THAN ME , BUT IT LOOKS LIKE I KNOW MORE THAN YOU.

 

Everyone's said from the beginning that the rookie who helps his team reach the playoffs should win the ROY. Are the Yao-only fans back-tracking this statement now that the Suns are likely to go to the playoffs?

I would be outraged if Amare doesn't win. He is performing very well, in this crucial stretch for the playoffs.

Yao-only fans have said that the ROY doesn't mean much to them. If this is true, then why do the Yao-only fans keep talking about ROY and Amare?

 

If Amare doesn't draw double teams, has no post moves and can't pass what does it make Yao then?

A player who has negative post moves? Their assist average is pretty much the same.
Amare is getting double teamed every time he touches the ball and usually opponents play only very few minutes of zone defense if at all.

 

T-man

I don't care who will win the ROY. I am just wondering which game you are talking about. Amare had a good game against KG, but Suns lost that game. In fact they lost to KG three straight times. They did win the last time but AMare only had 10/7 at the VICTORY.

So DON'T FAKE STATS TO MISLEAD OTHERS. AT LEAST SOMEBODY LIKE ME WILL CHECK THEM.

 

they must be joinin eddie in the back alley there.........U gotta be smokin somethin to think he's better than Yao.

 

I assume that you are a Yao's only fan as well since you also keep talking about the subject.

 

Ummm, no. this is my first post in the thread.

 

Way to go W&S, you nailed him big time....

 

What a co-incidence! it was my first post on the thread as well!

I was not even bother to join until, I saw your mention about Yao's fans.



As a Yao's fan, I will be glad if Yao get the ROY but if he doesn't, it does not matter much. I can accept that. People have different opinions and I am not the one who vote.

However, to me, Yao is the ROY. If I was the one who vote, I would vote for him.
I think that the arguement for Yao to be the ROY is very reasonable as much as (or, to me, more) than Amare's.

Since, we are all not people who vote, this thread is merely the arguement/discussion about different opinions and preference.

We can choose to join or not join the discussion. There is nothing wrong with it.

Please do not generalize Yao's fans.

That is as bad as discrimination to me.

 

my above post is directed to montelwilliams.

 

Montelwilliams
You are a Mugu. Subject is different from thread. Comprehend?

 

Both guys were terribly inconsistent. Numbers ballooning from game to game.
Yao has SUCKED the past 2 months. Ever since they made him stop doing commercials .
I think co-ROY should be ideal. If you look at the impact both players had, they're almost equal. With Yao's D, you can at least see the impact when teams drive or the big guys try to go after him. I don't see Amare's impact on the defensive end when I've watched him outside of the defensive boards. I think Phoenix has an overall better talent than the Rox too, esp. when you consider the production of Marbury, Marion and even that old crippled dude from the Magic .
Yao's numbers are somewhat more decent than Amare's when you consider the playing time per game. The Rockets Assistant Coach has no clue how to play Yao and neither did Rudy. I doubt the Rockets will make it to the playoffs. They've REALLY screwed up the last month or so, esp. with Rudy's deteriorating health in the mix.
What the Rox need to do in the off-season:
1. Convince Cutino to come off the bench. Else trade him for somebody willing to do so.
2. Get a true-point guard and move Franchise to shooting guard where he's more of a fit like AI.
3. Convince China to give some time off for Yao to let him work on his upper-body and conditioning. He's been playing basketball non-stop for the past 3 years. Can't be good for either the mind of body. This season is over unfortunately. We all believed the hype the first 2 months and hype wasn't enough compared to brains. The Rox play so well at home yet when they hit the road they implode. Irritating as hell.

 

Here is a comment I made in another Post.


Past Post:


Amare has game... true.

However, I think Yao has had a bigger impact on the court.

1. Yao gets triple/doubled teamed. Amare doesn't get so much attention cause everyone focuses on Marbury and Marion on the Sun's. Imagine how good Amare would do if there were 3 guys trying to stop him from scoring or if the opposing team set their entire defensive scheme to deny a player the ball (ex: Celtics set their entire defense to deny Yao Ming the ball)

2. Yao alters more shots by being 7 ft 5 alone. Not many easy layups either when Yao is on defense.

3. Yao is a better passer

4. Yao shoots a higher %. Yao is the only player in the top 3 of any statistical category.

Do you still agree Amare and Yao should share?

The suns are in the playoffs cause Marbury is carrying the dam team. Marbury is playing out of his mind. Amare is good but Yao's accomplishments easily overshadows Amare's. I don't think it's even a close comparison. Apples and Oranges...etc

 

wow, you really can read beneath the lines!!! You must be Dr. Phil. Sorry, doc for my offense.

Seriously though, this ROY topic has been beaten to death and we all know both deserve equally for ROY because statistics does not lie. To say Amare deserves more than Yao is just as biased as the other way around. But the fact of matter is I just do not care about ROY at all - whoever gets it is fine with me. [/B][/QUOTE]

You are the first idiot I have run into on the board. If you are in the United States, be thankful that there is such a thing as freedom of speech

 

The above was what yingtchen said..not me..

You are the first idiot I have run into on the board. If you are in the United States, be thankful that there is such a thing as freedom of speech

 

Like you understand anything?? What a moron - you cannot even quote people straight. Talking about freedom of speech. To tell you the truth - Rockets matter is just too complex for you.

 

What is your justification for Amare as ROY?

I don't understand how you can say Amare and ROY in the same sentence when Yao has clearly demonstrated he is the more accomplished player this year considering the situation both of them were in this year.

I don’t believe you are a real idiot. However, I do think you are basing an opinion without understanding what is really going on. It’s like the people who want to go to War but they really don’t know the entire situation but hell…War must be good right? Lets put it this way…ignorance is a bliss.

 

For what its worth, the two Sonic announcers (white guys) on the League Pass game tonight both unanimously chose Yao as rookie of the year without any hesitation and with only a passing reference to Amare. This despite Yao having poor or below average games against the Sonics all season long and Seattle being in the same division as the Suns. It looks like a majority of the media are leaning towards Yao while players and ex-players back Amare.

 

first of all, they're not both white guys. if i remember correctly, one of them was black or was i seeing things? anyway, i recognize those guys voices cause they're the announcers on my nba2k3 game.

and i didn't hear them say yao was the unanimous choice for rookie of the year either. so stop fabricating stories. they just gave yao some compliments cause he showed he was very agile and how he spun by his defender and dunked it and how his hook shot resembled kareem's when he made the shot even though that's yao's worse shot right now and he only started using it this season in the nba. yao misses that hook shot in practice wide open occasionally. they were just commenting on how when he gets stronger, he'll get better and how right now he's a specimen or whatever they called him.

also tom tolbert's white also, and i hear him choosing amare as rookie of the year. so leave out the racial bs ok.

 

Dude, you need to re-watch the whole tape of the game before you go around accusing people of fabricating stuff. The comment that Yao was their pick for ROY was VERY CLEAR. The comments about Yao getting better when he gains strength did not even take place at the same time. Maybe you were in the toilet or raiding the fridge and missed it. Also, I said the media seems to be a lean towards Yao while the players were a lean towards Amare. I didn't say anything about race - you did. And even by that token, does Tom Tolbert, a known critic of Yao, represent the entire media contingent? Fred Carter of ESPN strongly backs Yao for the ROY and he was still black the last time I saw him but I wouldn't necessarily say that represented anything more than a single person's opinion.