Smarts, or lack of savvy.

Yes. He will be the leader. But right now....he is STILL learning. How can he be a leader when he is still developing......BUT YES. He will be our leader......if people can understand him...I don't know if he can motivate our guys...probably can better than Francis though.

 

pgabriel,


it is obvious how enamored you are with steve's scoring ability and statistics.

it is also painfully obvious that you have no clue how a point guard is supposed to play.



a point guards ability will NEVER be judged by numbers alone. it is in the style of basketball that they play, the way they set their teammates up, the way they play defense, and, yes, the way they are able to score when all other options have been exhausted. that is a point guard's duty.


and i want you to tell me where you believe steve ranks among POINT GUARDS in the nba...because truthfully, i think he's one of the worst. don't get it twisted - he's an amazing talent and an amazing guard...but he is a terrible point guard...as pointed out by DaDakota's posts you continue to ignore.

 

pgabriel,

you are truly irrational.
EOS.



theSAGE

 

reading over this again, i realize that pgabriel is responding to DaDakota's posts, but not the content of them. it's almost as if pgabriel is just giving his opinion, rather than having a mutual discussion.

 

PGabriel

Did you even watch that game. Part of the reason Robinson was able to do these things was because Yao had to come and help out Eddie or stop the penetration.

Frankly, I suspect I know why you defend Steve and blame Yao but it's not politically correct for me to say so Im not going to.

 

He's a bigot. OOOPSS I SAID IT but don't quote me on it



theSAGE

 

Will that make sterling Stevie an awful GM later in life (when he really is no longer young)?

 

I wouldnt call him a bigot because that's probably not true.

However, I always find it interesting when people start criticizing Yao just to defend Steve.

I don't think Steve was to blame for that game. However at the same time, if I were to defend Steve, I also wouldnt say it was Yao's fault.

I would point to the other obvious reasons we lost such as lack of defensive intensity, poor play (once again) from James Posey, Cat's bad shooting, etc...

 

somehow I still feel that a lot must be blame on Rudy..... isn't the coach suppose to teach the player how to set up offensively? didn't he said in the preseason that he will be using motion offense? what is the offense now? everyone just STAND around and wait...... that doesn't sounds like motion to me.....

 

OKAY.
The Rockets are handicap.
Their coach is hopeless. He can't teach them anything.
Cuz they are unable to listen. And they can't execute.
Francis.....well he can't make anything. He's trying to be a point guard. Not working well.
Mobley....well he's done all right. He makes great passes but our other players just can't catch balls.....they're sleeping or looking at something else.
Posey....just cannot shoot.
Rice......never gets the ball but can shoot. But he is hopeless on defense......especially when Rudy Tomjanovich is putting him on Kevin Garnetts and Turkish guys who are 7 feet tall.
Griffin just cannot shoot. His defense is all right.
Yao....well gets no calls. And is not a robot. He can't make shots every time. But when he passes....people have to catch. AND HE DOES NOT MAKE ALL HIS SHOTS. But it is still better than MAKING NO SHOTS AT ALL. Golly.

So...we are in need of a good coach and good shooter.

We need someone who ATTEMPTS to get open. Which isn't very hard. Not just standing around.....and someone who can CATCH and SHOOT. Catching the ball is usually not hard. But for our team....it seems like it. First....they have to learn to be aware and get ready and try to get and catch the ball. THEN THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SHOOT. Which is difficult.

Rockets just suck.

How about getting Jon Barry?

 

This team is in need of hard discipline and Rudy can't give it to them. Let's send the whole darn team to China!

 

here is an example where he did not do this.

With the Rockets down 4-2 against Detroit, francis and Griff worked a pick and roll, eddie's man left him and Griffin cut to the hoop, Francis somehow, someway did not see him. until a second and a half later and the pass was deflected. If steve truly doesn't have these passing instincts, then he should not be the PG of this team.

Last thing we need is a Marbury on this team.

 

Well another thing.

Mobley has stepped up and is basically like one of the only two Rockets who ever score when they need to.

But he definitely LACKS SMARTS.

He frequently drives into the middle. When he does this....all the freakin Pistons converge on him.

YAO IS ALWAYS OPEN.

It is amazing that he never passes to him on THOSE plays...or whatever you call them. Freestyle desperation plays...

That is lack of saavy.

But he's not the only problem.

 

Posted by mad Y...

Yes. Everyone knows. Us Rockets fans know we suck. Now everybody knows. They are all saying it on TV. "We are too inexperienced" I don't know how the heck we can become more experienced and how the heck that will help. It doesn't matter if we just play one on one basketball all day. We don't pass at all. NO PASSING. We are just isolation again....either give it to Mobley in the same spot and let him do it...which he did good. Or give it to Yao and hope he scores.......WHILE THE REST OF THE PLAYERS JUST STAND THERE. Yao has no one to pass to. Or if it's not Yao.....then it's MO TAYLOR. And he has been on fire. But he can't do it forever. Now Steve Francis is struggling. I don't knw.........but he needs help. Why can't he be like Chauncey Billups or even Stephon Marbury? Of course.....they both have more than one person on the team that can shoot.

SOLUTIONS....

EITHER NEW COACH.....who actually has an offensive system with all the players involved.....and who can prepare us for games.
CUZ WE HAVE BEEN STARTING GAMES TERRIBLY. Sure.....we make great comebacks.....but still LOSE cuz no more time.
Golly.
ALSO.........GET A SHOOTER. Jon Barry doesn't look too bad......even Chauncey Billups can shoot!!!!!
Change the starting lineup. We are screwing up in the first half terribly. Sometimes......our defense just sucks. Then when our defense gets all good.....our offense just sucks. So we are screwed.
That goes back to.......NEW COACH.
DANG IT.

We need at least one shooter....and need to replace some players.

Keep Francis cuz we have to.
No one is willing to trade for Mo Taylor. So he'll be around.
Cuttino..........
Posey.....please leave. And then sign a good shooter and good defender to replace him.
Yao is of course staying.

NOW GET RID OF ALL THE REST OF THE PLAYERS and replace them with just shooters and defenders. Good......not oldies.....but experienced players who know their roles and fit well with us.

NOW GO CARROLL DAWSON!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

I remember when the young Trailblazers of the 80's were loaded wth talent but played "dumb" Even though Clyde was one of the top players in the league and the team was loaded and atheletic, they made poor judgements at crucial times that may have cost them a ring. That team got to the finals because they were supertalented from top to bottom.. That team was young , but then after a while instead of being young and umb, they became old and still dumb. Sometimes a certai mixrure of players no matter how talented just don't jel and get smarter. We might look up 3 yrs from now and thisteam, mostly the backcourt will still be making dumb mistakes. A player just on't wake up and starts making good decisions. I'm not calling Francis and Mobley dumb people, i just think if they are the players who is suppose to make the critical plays at critical junctures in the game, i can name a lot of other player in the league whom i'd rather have making that deision especially if its a multiple option play. Steve still hasn't learned how to play point and Cat still doesn't know what a quality shot is. Rudy still can't of refuses to design an offense that takes advantage and hides his players weakness. Sometimes offensive systems are designed out of neccessity like the triangle. The triangle was designed becase chicago didn't have a traditional pg, but had 3 guys who could start the offense without the responsibility of being the typical pg. This is needed with the Rockets and until this team can create that and get the ball out of the worse decision makers hands on the floor, the offense will continue to be a struggle and this team will be very challenged offensively.

 

I never thought I'd see the day that the Houston faithful (which I doubt, for the most part, spend much, if any, time posting unproductive rants) turned into "Whine City." C,mon: Houston was still in the lottery the year after we drafted the (debateably) best college center ever, Ralph Sampson. Jordan took over 5 years to win a championship (much less to make it to the finals). We, right now, have 2 more victories than ALL of last season. COuld the team improve more: of course! Should we release the whole team & coaching staff: of course not! The Houston Rockets are a TEAM! Not Steve or Yao or Cat or.....Part of the enjoyment in watching sports is to watch teams progress & decline: not every team can make the playoffs every year: some can't even make it every decade! Enjoy the Rocks for what it is: A GAME! As far a Rudy T, he IS the Rockets. Calvin Murphy, Hakeem & most any other Rocket that matters would say the same. Win or lose, I still LOVE the Rockets: not because we have Yao or G.Rice or Franchise, but because they have the had several of the greatest centers ever to play the game (and because Ralph Sampson beat up Danny Ainge, but that's another post) and they're the HOUSTON ROCKETS!!! Support your team (if they REALLY are your team)!

 

I'm tired of these kinda of "your no true fan because you do not support your team when they suck." They have sucked for 4-yrs now and its not about winning and losing its about 1.Selfishness, 2. Lack of heart, 3. No desire to win, 4. Poorly coached team, 5. and 1,000 other reasons. Ther comes a time when you have to say enough is enough and make changes. These kind of posts just mean " I am happy with these bunch of losers and could care less if they win,lose, throw up crappy shots,never pass,play no defense, etc...) Just a thought