Slowly coming around, any room on the bandwagon?

Since it's taken this long for you to get it, I apologize for my skepticism.

No problem. I guess mine just aren't as subtle as yours with your criticizing people for taking this too seriously and accusing of people of thinking they're better than others because of an argument about sports. I'll try harder.

 

This is all Carrs fault. This argument would not have existed if he was still around

 

I got it months ago when we first talked. Good grief, the comment wasn't even directed at you, and you come flying in here with all-caps and bold text like I attacked you personally. You're not the only person to have ever used the term, "true fan", RM95.

Please find where I accused anyone of thinking they're better than others. And your post appeared to take the conversation far more seriously than I was, if that felt like an "accusation" please accept my apologies. Thanks for the cheap shot, all over a misunderstanding.

The point is, few would say, "I'm better than you", over sports--and as such, using moralistic terminology makes no sense. That's it--nothing more. Why is that so insulting to you????

If you really think I'm sitting in some kind of pious judgment over someone I've never met because of what he typed on a sports bulletin board, then you have really misunderstand what I was trying to say. I'm sorry if I've communicated poorly.

Why do we have resort to trading insults on something this trivial?

 

So, it is a semantics argument? Is the word bigger OK for you rather than "moralistic" terms like loyal and true? Please let the board know so we don't have any more of these arguments.

The fact that you even use the word moralistic shows you are taking this way too seriously. I'm betting no one here who has said "true" fan or "loyal" fan means it in any other way than "bigger" fan. You're not the only one who understands that this is simply about sports and isn't a moral judgment on people who choose to root for a team for different reasons and at different times. By criticizing the use of those words, you're implying that people actually do feel that they're better than others because of how and why they root for their teams.

I don't believe that's the case at all. I'd be shocked if it was.

 

if they were 0-2, would anyone be talking about his leadership? he's a smart, talented guy which frees kubiak to design a more intricate, proactive offensive approach that takes full advantage of his physical and mental prowess. why is this so hard?

btw, how was baby vince's leadership sunday in that final drive? did it take the day off?

 

judging what???? judging whether or not she's more fanatical about DMB than he is???

 

who cares?? it's not like he's stoning her for it. he's just saying people have varying degrees of interest and affinity for things/people. i'm not sure that's even arguable.

 

uhm... DD? care to guess the last team to beat the colts... (hint: vince young doesn't play for them).

and who are these "titans" you speak of? you mean the scrubs who stand around and watch baby vince win ballgame after ballgame?

 

Depends. They were talking about his leadership in training camp when they were 0-0. They did the same with Vince. Despite your consistent attitude that leadership is a load of crap connected with winning, players and coaches consistently place those labels on certain players - and they often do it (as in the case of both Schaub and Vince) before they ever started winning for those teams.

Perhaps you know better than the players and coaches that play with the guys, but I'm going to venture that's not the case.

 

you guys wanna move this to the D&D.

 

Stop accusing me (just kidding). And, if "true" and "loyal" and "faithful" are not moralistic words, then what are they?

You win, RM95. You've stated your case well. Does the vitriol with which you've come after me, when I wasn't even addressing you, show that you were taking this seriously? Just curious.

I stated an opinion. It's my opinion. About language. That is all. If it comes up again, and you attack me in this way again, I'll try to link to this thread and save the board the two-page argument.

 

It's not judging. I don't judge my sister for me liking DMB more than her. She doesn't judge me for not liking Heroes as much as she does. I don't judge you as a person for saying what you said about the Texans and now saying you're going to root for them. I may give you good-natured ribbing about it, but I'd never judge your character based on that.

There is no arguing that there are different levels of fandom. I'm not saying there are better levels, just that they're different. There is no arguing that fact. None. At. All.

 

that statement makes absolutely zero sense. "people can choose to be less fanatic as the want, but it doesn't make them less fanatic."

where am i?

 

You've stated it yourself...we're talking about sports here. People who use those words don't mean it in a moralistic way when using it in this context, yet you're the one criticizing them for doing so. You're applying the term moralistic when no one else is and you're choosing to criticize them for something they're not even doing.

Of course, all these people could come out and say I'm wrong and that they do think they're better than those they're talking trash to, but somehow, I doubt they feel that way.

 

Don't mess with the Texans, buddy. We're number one, we beat anybody! We're the Texans! The Texans!! Haaaaaaaaa!!!

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