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Skip Bayless: Houston Rockets BIGGEST LOSER of the trade deadline.

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Snow Villiers, Feb 19, 2016.

  1. malakas

    malakas Member

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    saying that a pick at 18-20 is more valuable an asset than DMO is like me saying
    "doesn't matter if I spent 50 euros to buy lottery tickets, because look! I can now maybe win 50 euros with them!! "
     
  2. Bobbythegreat

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    Or maybe a million......it's good that you have more flexibility in your wallet now. Solid decision.
     
  3. FTW Rockets FTW

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    Breh, I don't understand this analogy
     
  4. pwnyxpress

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    Y'all need to not focus on just a small segment of my comment that isn't even the point.

    1. I even said DET probably makes playoffs, but we really don't know what seed yet. And even THEN, lots of teams were "expected" to be somewhere and bam, guess what, not everything turns out the way one thinks. I'll reserve full judgment on this one. Still will assume it to be around pick #21. More likely DET is lower east seed than a top east seed...

    2. Replace my "tall guy that can shoot 3's" with "skilled 7 footers who can, etc." and my comment still stands. Like, your response completely ignores the point of my comment. Try it yourself, plug in the difference and re-read my comment. It's essentially the same, but nice attempt at your version of a strawman.

    3. So much fail here. DMo being the "best" PF on the team is like saying he's the tallest midget in the circus. Even if you're technically right, it's still a bit misleading. But that's assuming you're even technically right. Some may argue with you and say DMo is NOT as good as other PFs we have. Heck, even TJones has dominant stretches, whereas DMo has stretches of sitting on the bench. I just can't understand how you can completely ignore his health. It's crucial here. If DMo were healthy end of last season and throughout this whole season, and playing at least at the best level he played at last season (which was again, like a year ago since we last saw him in good form), then yeah, I might be more on board with you. That's not reality though.

    4. You're making yourself look silly with comments like this. A pick is an asset that a walking player is not. Repeating your own comments won't make them so either...

    And yeah, the scenarios you laid out ARE EXACTLY WHY FLEXIBILITY INCREASED. Also the pick by itself is a trade asset that, had we kept DMo and Thornton, would not exist.

    As to DMo being our best PF, see my above answer #3. As to Thornton being our best bench scorer, I agree. I'm sad about that. I hope Morey did the match and whatever + Thornton brought was canceled out by the - his defense also brought. I haven't look at the stats here enough honestly.
     
  5. pwnyxpress

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    You're forgetting that DMo's contract ends this summer. He can walk for free, or get massively overpaid. And his health.

    And I didn't say a pick at 18-20 is MORE valuable a trade asset than DMo straight up (maybe a better trade could be had), but it is a better trade asset than if we KEPT DMo past this trade deadline.

    The whole, he can leave for free thing. Your analogy is pretty fail.
     
  6. pwnyxpress

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    I was going to refute these points individually, but I feel like many have been addressed in other posts.

    And honestly, in my experience, if you're silly enough to say and believe these points in the first place, no amount of explanation on an e-forum will make you recognize why you're wrong. I'll quit while I'm ahead (not in convincing you, but in preserving my typing energies).

    Time to jump out of the GARM! Getting over-involved haha.
     
  7. Bobbythegreat

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    He actually couldn't "leave for free" given that he was restricted and the Rockets had his full Bird rights but I see you are going all out to justify this awful trade that was made solely so that Les wouldn't have to pay the luxury, so rock on.
     
  8. Ronkol

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    Yet that's the point.

    - DMo would have to be paid or he would have walked.
    - Back injuries for 7ft tall players are always iffy.

    I like DMo, but it's quite a big bet the Rockets would have made if they had retained him next year, especially since we are having to rebuild with Dwight walking.

    It was the logical decision, which sucks.
     
  9. malakas

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    RFA can't walk for free. That's what bird rights are for, the team has the first say on their fate.

    Oh now DMO is going to get overpaid? Then he must be 100% back ? In which case why shouldn't we keep him? Sign your FA and then resign your RFA with bird rights as all the teams do.
    Or he isn't 100% and he will get paid peanuts. In which case why shouldn't we keep him? Very cheap young combo big with the possibillity to get healthy and be a bargain contract.

    whatever. cya.
     
  10. malakas

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    DMO can't get paid on his own. He needs someone to pay him.
    So which team who needs a pf will gamble all that huge paying on DMO who has had back injury? When they wouldn't have the chance to have them in their team to see how he fits, and for their own doctors to examine him?
     
  11. Bobbythegreat

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    The point still remains that the trade made the team worse by trading away 2 useful players and all we got for doing so was a late first round pick at the expense of a 2nd round pick.
     
  12. T_Man

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    Skip Bayless has a history of hating Dwight Howard....

    There is nothing that Dwight can do right in Skips eyesight....

    T_Man
     
  13. dwhite

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    Turning into a lost decade for Morey...
     
  14. Htownballer38

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    Bwhahaha still trying to force your opinion on who was the best PF on this team. Dude let it go already. The Rockets organization clearly doesn't share your opinion.
     
  15. KlutchQT

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    So much of the media. It's annoying -- yet unsurprising -- that this whole event turned into "Hahahahaha we were always right about Dwight" in the media, as if the Rockets just up and decided he was the headcase they've made him out to be. You hear very little about his contract situation driving front office decisions at this juncture. They just can't/couldn't wait to be "right" about him, even if they're still, in fact, wrong.
     
  16. Bobbythegreat

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    It's not my opinion, it's obvious fact. Don't worry, I don't expect that to mean that you understand.

    Carry on.
     
  17. Htownballer38

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    How is it a fact. Show some proof stating the Rockets saying Dmo was their best power forward.
     
  18. solodolo

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    DD and bobbythelame make my head hurt , they won't stop
     
  19. KlutchQT

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    MY GOD, YOU TWO ARE INSUFFERABLE.
     
  20. Bobbythegreat

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    The intelligent debate ended on the subject quite a while ago. No serious Rocket fan would dispute the fact that DMo when healthy (as he is TODAY) was the best power forward on the roster. It's just not an issue up for debate anymore. Now the best power forward on the Rockets roster is Harrell. Also very obvious and not really up for debate.
     

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