Sixers, Rockets engaged in "fluid trade talks" about Jeremy Lin?

I think we should just trade lin..... regardless after the jersey fiasco hes not happy.....

Also if we wait too long knick could trade amare to them and we'd be screwed

I don't understand what morey's waiting for

 

To trade Jeremy Lin, the Rockets would have to send future first round draft pick(s). No need to trade away those picks when Jeremy's contract expires after this season.

 

What about this isn't solid?

 

What is?

 

The only reason Hinkie is engaged with the Knicks for Amare is to move out Thad Young's contract and pick up a piece. Any trade of Amare to Philly will have Thad Young going out.

 

It really tells you how bad a player is when you have to include a first round pick for someone else just to take him. Clearly "All-Star potential" as the LOFs like to trumpet

 

Thaddeus would be a great pickup for us if we can't sign any big name free agents.

 

God, I hope it's not that much, but it probably is. Let's hope it's the worst of the two 2015s.

 

I actually now have LOF's using my name to post racist garbage on the culture map comments section about Jeremy Lin.

These people are insane and I can't wait till Lin is gone and his cancerous fanbase goes to pester a new team.

 

Lin isn't horrible. He's just a mediocre PG and a horrible fit on a team that owes him 15 million this year. No one wants to pay a mediocre player 15 mil. And other GMs have leverage because they know this and can ask for other assets, even if they think Lin can actually be pretty productive on their team.

But I think if we do get Melo or Bosh and flip Lin while also having to give up a 1st round pick, it would still be a great net deal for us because we essentially got Lin and Asik for the two years they were cheap then flipped them for a superstar.

 

I strongly doubt that Philly would take on Amare's contract AND send out Thad Young without getting SUBSTANTIAL compensation for doing so. Compensation that New York simply does not have to offer.

Thad Young has trade value. Real trade value. He's not just some guy who gets dumped into a crappy trade for ****s and giggles.

And Philly has a crap-load of cap room; and it's not like they HAVE to clear out room for any key free agent signing.

I'm calling "shenanigans" on your theory.

 

I agree he's mediocre but all the "upside" comments go out the window knowing no team wants him sans a first rounder included. Most teams would be interested in acquiring a young player if they felt he could be a part of their future plans and had the cap space.

I'm ok with the deal too. It sucks that Lin has such negative value but at least we got something for Asik.

 

Silliest post I've seen in some time. You (and some of the other posters) are really taking your dislike of Lin and/or his fans to extreme levels.

All that sending out assets/picks says is that the ratio of the remaining terms of the contract versus the expected production is unfavorable.

If Morey had Beverley signed to a $15M expiring contract, do you see any team taking him without sending out Picks? How about Patty Mills? How about Greivis Vasquez?

We get it, you don't like part of the fan base. If Lin is traded he'll be off and so will they and everyone gets to move on with their lives (though you'll still have to deal with us Morey fans). If not, then the Rockets will need him to perform well until at least the mid-season trade deadling if the Rockets are going to go anywhere.

And if Lin is sent out in a trade for a first round pick, Houston actually did very well net/net over the life of the contract.

2 years of a productive player for $5M/year and a first round pick, 1 year as a starter, 1 year as a 6th man rotation player, and you extracted them from a team that highly desired to retain him AND was a RFA. And his $8.3M cap hit for the first 2 years had ZERO impact on the team's flexibility as the Rockets were able to acquire Harden and Dwight during his tenure.

If you wanted to trade for a legitimate rotation PG, what do you think the Rockets would need to send out? Think about it... players with matching salaries as well as potentially a draft pick or two. And if you weren't sending out players you'd need to send out even better picks.

If all Lin costs the team over the life of his tenure is $10M and a first round pick for 153 games the Rockets did very nicely. Not as well as the Asik deal ($10M + getting a 4-19 pick), but still a very solid return considering the Rockets didn't need to send out considerably money OR picks OR players to get either of them.

And in the big picture, if Lin is traded by sending out the Pelicans pick, then what you have is Morey got two RFA's in Lin + Asik for 2 relatively healthy years at $10M total and sent out nothing in picks or player assets in return.

Most teams would KILL to have their deals work out that well net/net.

I swear some of the posters here are so blinded by their own agendas or so greedy that they can't accept how good they have it with the Rockets. They're so busy trying to nitpick each individual decision that they lose complete sight of the big picture that Morey is trying to bring to life.

Look at most of the teams in the NBA... Morey and Co. have done a phenomenal job on the whole when you compare them to 20+ other teams.

2 years ago if the idea was proposed that the Rockets would be getting two top 3 players in the NBA AND multiple draft picks would pan out to be solid rotation players AND one could potentially be a fringe all star people AND the team would be in position to potentially land a 3rd All Star caliber player would be doing back flips.

Instead people are playing back seat GM as if they have a better idea of how to build a team than Morey.

Unreal.

 

Whoops, clearly thought there was more. Move along.

Knicks offer Amar’e Stoudemire to Sixers in deal that could also include Iman Shumpert or Tim Hardaway

[rQUOTEr]The Knicks continue to work the Philadelphia Sixers in an attempt to trade Amar'e Stoudemire's expiring contract and create cap space.

The Knicks could potentially sign Pau Gasol if they were to trade Stoudemire. Philadelphia would ask for either Iman Shumpert or Tim Hardaway in a potential deal but Knicks president Phil Jackson would prefer to keep both.

Such a deal is risky for the Sixers because they would be creating cap space for a division rival to pursue the likes of Gasol, Kevin Love or even LeBron James, assuming James does not re-sign with Miami which he will likely do.[/rQUOTEr]

 

This. So f'n much. Candidate for best post of the offseason thus far.

 

Thanks for the sane, logical, reasoned post (and bonus points for responding to King1 who's clearly taken his viewpoints to an extreme).

 

Knicks cannot even offer a draft pick (first OR second rounder) before 2018.

Uh...I'm guessing they don't have the sweeteners to dump a $23M contract on Philly.

(Not at you, J.R. Just at the Knicks' warped [alleged] line of thinking.)

 

Calderon/Prigioni
Smith/Hardaway
Anthony
Gasol/Bargnani
Dalembert/Gasol

Eh actually not bad, could see them actually making the playoffs.

 

@dyst_now 7-7-14

"POTENTIAL TRADE: Amare Stoudemire or Andrea Bargnani, Shane Larkin and future 2nd for Jason Richardson and Arnett Moultrie."

"The only problem with Larkin being in deal is he can't be dealt till August 25th. That's why Phil is trying to trade 2nd rounders instead."


-----seems like Phil is just trying to just get room to get gasol in, he's willing to take a few players back, it's not just full salary dump.

 

Lol why would they do that? how would you know they are LoFs?