Sixers offer Ben Simmons max contract(5 yrs/$168M); expected deal soon

Stone will laugh and hang up.

 

Simmons, Hill and the return of Clark
For
Wall

Wall is a fit and dreams can come true for him & Simmons is our new center. Hill & Clark are playable filler.

 

Calling it right now: Simmons for Kemba

Philly gets a PG that, at least when healthy, does normal PG things and won’t get benched in the 4th quarter.

OKC tanks again and let’s Simmons put up monster numbers. Thus repairing his trade value and prolonging the asset until they figure out their next move.

It’s a win for everyone.

 

NBA Trade Machine - ESPN

Simmons is going to the Blazers

 

Who is this guy & what happened to him?

(“It’s Summer League, against nobodies, who aren’t even trying hard”, blah blah blah)

 

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/n...ason-struggles-philadelphia-76ers-joel-embiid

[…]

All season, Doc Rivers, who took over as Philadelphia's coach after Brett Brown was fired in the summer, had blasted anyone who dared question Simmons’ value.

"I could care less," he told reporters in December when asked about Simmons’ inability to shoot. "I'll let you guys talk about what Ben doesn't do."

After Simmons’ poor free-throw shooting helped the Wizards snatch a game from the Sixers in the first round, Rivers said, "If you guys don’t know the treasure you have by now, then shame on everyone because he has been fantastic for us."

Sunday night, after the loss, a reporter asked Rivers whether he still believed Simmons could be the starting point of a team with championship aspirations.

"I don’t know the answer to that right now," Rivers replied.

[…]

You know, it wasn’t all that long ago that Ben Simmons was bounding up to the foul line during playoff games and burying free throws.

It’s easy to forget, given everything that has happened to both him and the Sixers in the years since. This was back in April 2018, his rookie season and first postseason run, and the Sixers were facing the Miami Heat in the first round. Simmons made seven of his 10 free throws in Game 1, and then he went 4-for-6 in Game 2 and an even better 7-for-8 in Game 3. He struggled in Game 4, going just 1-for-4 from the line, but — in what seemed to be an encouraging sign — responded by going 6-for-7 in the Sixers’ series-clinching Game 5 victory.

Simmons regressed a bit the next round, and the Sixers fell to the Boston Celtics in five games. But this was just Year 1 of the Simmons-Embiid partnership, and they'd already won a playoff series. A better future didn’t just seem probable; it felt guaranteed. Simmons had even approached Embiid after the Sixers’ Game 5 loss to the Celtics, held up his hand and said, "There’s gonna be a lot of [championship] rings on this before we're done."

[…]

Just one year earlier, teammates had spent offseason pick-up games daring him to shoot from the outside, trash-talking him in the process, with Brett Brown, then the team's coach, watching from his office, frustrated and confused. This was a different player than Brown had seen on film, a different player than the one who had no qualms launching an occasional jumper during the 2016 Summer League before he fractured a bone in his left foot, which sidelined him for the entire season.

Simmons spent the year rehabbing and about a year and a half working alongside shooting coach John Townsend. Townsend was hired by Brown in 2016 to work closely with Simmons, and together the two made progress. Maybe not as much as some in the organization would have liked, but still, that 70.6% mark during the postseason represented a massive step forward.

Two days after that 2018 loss to the Celtics, the Sixers held exit meetings in their Camden, New Jersey, training facility. Each player was given a four-page document containing individualized offseason plans. For Simmons, the list of priorities included free-throw shooting, finishing at the rim and developing a jump shot. In that order.

After the meetings, Brown told reporters during a news conference that he expected Simmons to spend "intense time" with Townsend in the offseason. Everyone around the team was excited. They felt like a breakthrough had occurred, that Simmons was ready not only to solidify his improvements at the line but also to begin carrying those changes into his shooting overall.

After exit meetings, the players and coaches went their separate ways to recharge. Some time passed, and according to multiple league sources, when Townsend returned to the team’s facility, Brown pulled him aside. Change of plans, he said.

Simmons’ agent, Rich Paul, and family had decided that he’d be better off working with one of his brothers, Liam, a former low-level Division I guard and assistant coach, who now coaches at Division II Colorado Christian University.

Brown, who'd been promoted to interim GM in the wake of former team president Bryan Colangelo's Twitter scandal, wasn’t sure the reason for the change. It also didn’t matter.

Simmons was a former No. 1 pick, one of the team’s two foundational pieces, a genuine superstar, in talent and branding, in a league in which superstars dictate the terms. In other words: Simmons wasn’t required to explain himself to management.

That season, Simmons’ free-throw shooting regressed once again, plunging back down to 60%, not quite as bad as his rookie-season marks but still a significant drop from his playoff rate. He also took just 25 shots outside of 16 feet after attempting 40 as a rookie. At one point during the year, Jim O’Brien, a longtime NBA coach and former Sixers assistant who was serving as a special adviser to Brown, posed a question during a coaches meeting.

"Name me one area where Ben Simmons has improved," he asked his colleagues.

The room fell silent.

[…]

You’d be hard-pressed to find many players who do as many things well on the court as Simmons. The problem is the one thing he doesn’t do — shoot or, for that matter, put the ball in the basket from anywhere — happens to be the game’s most essential skill. This has always been the case, but it has become even more true in recent years, as pace and space and 3-point shooting have overtaken the league.

Simmons can’t shoot. He also won’t shoot. The former is a problem, but for the Sixers, the latter has proven crippling. This was the case three years ago against the Celtics, then again the next season against the Raptors and this season against the Hawks. Simmons has played 19 second-round playoff games, with a total of 154 fourth-quarter minutes. In those 154 minutes, he has attempted a total of 20 shots.

It’s not just that he won’t launch 3-pointers or convert freebies at the foul line. It’s that we now have three series’ worth of evidence showing that when he gets past the playoffs’ first round, he’s incapable of contributing on offense. He never has figured out how to transform himself into a half-court weapon, be it as a screener, cutter, roller or some sort of hybrid. This would be an issue for any starter on any team, but Simmons’ insistence on being a point guard makes his limitations even more paralyzing.

According to league sources, Simmons’ frustration at being relegated to off-ball duty during the team’s 2019 second-round loss to the Raptors contributed to the front office’s decision to not re-sign Jimmy Butler. Brown had handed Butler the keys to the offense, and management was worried how Simmons would handle having Butler around and monopolizing crunch-time playmaking duties for multiple years.

The next season, prior to the league’s mid-pandemic restart, Brown told reporters that in practices, he’d been playing Simmons "exclusively" at power forward. Management, according to sources, pushed Brown to walk back that proclamation.

"I feel more comfortable bringing the ball up," Simmons told me in the summer of 2017. "I feel limited if you put me at the 4 position. I don't feel I can help as much."

 

[…]

It was December 2019 when Simmons made internet headlines for doing something he almost never does. He took, and made, a 3-pointer. The crowd, and Sixers bench, went wild.

After the game, Brown was asked by a reporter what he thought. "You can pass this along to his agent, his family, his friends and him," Brown said. "I want one 3-point shot a game, minimum."

Six weeks later, Simmons was sitting in the visitor’s locker room at Barclays Center, preparing for a game against the Nets. He hadn’t launched a 3-pointer since Brown’s comments, and I was curious why. So I approached him and asked if I could ask him a few questions.

"What about?" he asked.

"Shooting," I told him.

"Are they good questions?"

I told him I thought so.

He offered a half-smile. I’d written a number of profiles on Simmons over the years, and my book on the Sixers and The Process would be out soon. He and I weren’t close or anything, but my face was familiar. He was willing to have a real conversation.

"Why don’t you want to shoot more?" I asked him.

"I mean, I take my shots. I get shots up," he replied. "I think it’s just finding a balance of when to shoot and when to take certain shots."

"But when you hear people say that for court spacing with Joel just being willing to take a corner 3," I began replying, but Simmons cut me off.

"Our offense isn’t designed for that," he said. "There’s things I need to work on, which I’m going to do, but I think the way I play, my style, I’m able to create things. I’m a creative player, I make things happen, which 90 percent of the league can’t do. There’s only a select few players who can make plays and get guys good shots."

"You get what I’m saying, though."

"I hear what you’re saying, but at the same time, like, I don’t sit here and say, like, ‘I gotta do this every time.’ My game’s not based off that. Like, I do so many things on the court where I’m efficient and effective, affecting the game in different ways, so there’s things I need to work on, but, I mean, if you really want, you can look at other players and be like, ‘Well, this guy needs to work on his dribbling because he can’t dribble. He has this many turnovers if he’s forced to dribble.’"

"But let’s stick with something like a corner 3. I’ve seen you shoot that and hit it in practice."

"I think it’s also just getting the best shot we can every time, and that’s my main focus, really, just try to get the best shot we can."

"OK, but say Joel has the ball on the block. You can either space to the corner or go to the dunker spot."

"Which corner? The weak-side corner?"

"Yeah."

"I mean, that’s a tough pass. If you count the amount of times that Jo’s going to throw that, it’s not too many. And it’s not really me saying he’s a selfish player. It’s me saying that if I’m in a better position to rebound the ball knowing he’s going to take the shot, then I’d rather be there. Like, if my man goes to double, then I’m going to go under the rim, and Joe’s going to pass it. If my man stays, he has a one-on-one."

Simmons scored 34 points that night, leading the Sixers to a six-point victory. He conducted his postgame news conference from the locker room, and after, as he walked toward the door, he stopped and turned to me.

"Imagine if I hit those corner 3s," he said.

[…]

NBA executives told draft expert Jonathan Givony they thought Simmons had a character problem. An introvert by nature, Simmons responded by turning more inward, cutting his circle down to family and the closest of friends. His parents moved to Philadelphia. Sean became his manager. Klutch Sports, where one of his sisters worked, became his agency.

Everything was going according to plan. He became the No. 1 pick. He recorded 18 points, 10 rebounds and five assists in his NBA debut and afterward said, "I felt like I was playing [NBA]2K." Three games later, he recorded a triple-double. He told Patrick "the game in the NBA was easier for him to control than in college." He won Rookie of the Year. Since then, he has become a three-time All-Star and signed a max contract. The Sixers have transformed into a perennial contender.

He did things his way and listened to his people, and it all worked out. But now we’re seeing the consequences. What happens when suddenly the game doesn’t feel like NBA2K? How do you solve a problem if you’ve never been willing to confront it?

For years, Simmons’ reluctance to shoot baffled the Sixers. Early in his career, he’d goof around when coaches, including Brown, worked with him, sometimes flippantly launching the ball high into the air while practicing free throws instead of attempting a normal shot. He'd leave immediately after a practice without putting in extra time. But as time went by, current and former Sixers staffers say, those habits changed.

The work wasn’t the problem, which only confounded Sixers coaches and management even more. Brown would hurl curses at Townsend, asking why Simmons wasn’t shooting in the games, and try utilizing every teaching tool in his kit, all to no avail.

Monty Williams, who worked closely with Simmons while serving as an assistant to Brown for one season, hypothesized to friends that Simmons was scared of looking bad. Management under Colangelo even discussed having Simmons switch his shooting hand from left to right, which serves as his dominant hand in every other facet of his life.

None of it worked. The more anyone pushed, the more Simmons pushed back, creating a self-fulfilling cycle. Simmons told multiple Sixers staffers that because he was a poor shooter, he figured the team would be better off with him trying to drive and kick. Which in theory is fine — his 3-point shot is never going to scare defenses into guarding out on the perimeter — but against the Hawks he did neither.

[…]

Then came Game 7. During his postgame news conference one reporter asked Simmons why his performance in the playoffs always seems to drop. Simmons turned to a Sixers staffer seated alongside him.

"How many assists I have?" he asked. The answer was 13. He turned back to the Zoom screen. "I mean, I feel like I found my guys tonight, which I do in the regular season regardless," he said.

He then turned to the staffer again.

"What did Trae shoot?" he asked. The answer was 5-for-23.

It was a revealing moment, a window into how he feels. People around Simmons put it this way: He’s a 24-year-old perennial Defensive Player of the Year candidate. One of the league’s premier passers. An engine for a perennial Eastern Conference powerhouse. All while being the rare No. 1 pick to play on a roster not built around that player’s strengths. Yet he gets no leeway.

[…]

Simmons has faced criticism before, but nothing like what he’s experiencing right now. There’s no longer anyone on the Sixers protecting him. Will he respond by turning further inward, or will he finally confront his limitations head-on?

 

LOL

 

Simmons to the Lakers incoming

 

Lakers:

Talen Horton Tucker - klutch sports
Montrez Harrell - klutch sports
Anthony Davis - klutch sports
Caldwell Pope - klutch sports
Ben McLemore - klutch sports
Lebron James - klutch sports

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Ben Simmons - klutch
John Wall - klutch

 

I'll keep saying it, I'm glad we didn't trade for this guy. @D-rock and @treyk3 almost had me convinced and at some points I questioned if I was being too hard on Simmons.

For as good as player as he is because of his ability to find the open man, rebound, play DPOY level defense, etc, his offensive shortcomings are just waaaaay too much to ignore in this era of basketball. As I always suspected, the guy has not improved all that much since he came into the league and in fact, it appears he regressed a bit once he switched shooting coaches.

His value is really weird right now. I know rock bottom is not necessarily true, but his skills, as desirable as they may be in a player, are overshadowed by his lack of ability to shoot. I mean even Draymond Green is able to hit clutch shots and does not shy away from being fouled. It's crazy, but in this era of basketball, it is a huge detriment to his game.

 

I would LOVE to see Ben Simmons as a Laker because LeBron (age) and AD (injuries) won't be able to carry the team offensively every night if they have to play Simmons 35+ minutes a night. Having Simmons is not only redundant with Lebron on the roster as the ball handler but also stupid considering the fact that they have zero legitimate offensive threats outside of James and AD. Could Simmons and AD play the two-man offense like what we saw with Simmons and Embiid? Sure but 60% of the team on the floor with those two guys are still unknowns/inconsistent. If they re-sign Schroeder (huge IF) then maybe it'll work but I can only see disaster for a LeBron/Simmons/AD led team.

 

Simmons can work on a team where the other 4 players are shooters and he's playing the 4/5 spot.

He's gonna be great on the Guangdong Tigers.

 

We draft Cade. Then we trade Wall, Wood, and Gordon for Simmons and Harris.

Cade, KPJ, Tate, Harris, Simmons.

We'd get killed on the interior, but it could be a fun, high-scoring regular season team. In a couple years, after Harris and Simmons have upped their value because of the inflated stats, we can move them.

 

Simmons desperately needs life coach like Lucas.

Lucas would teach him to shoot with confidence as well.

 

Maybe all this criticism makes him learn how to shoot. Remember how everyone thought cp3 was washed a terrible contract.

 

Chris Paul wants to succeed and prove his doubters wrong. Ben Simmons publicly stated he needs someone to be on his ass:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29074004/ben-simmons-hears-talk-process-not-public-experiment

 

I mean if I were him. he should only shoot jump shots with the Boomers next month and be a ball hog. Shoot every time, never pass a la Carmelo.

 

Well yea, Bruce is also a defensive specialist.

SAS and his text message.