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Sixers felt Houston did not call them back for a counteroffer before Brooklyn deal

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Mr Woods, Jan 15, 2021.

  1. Icehouse

    Icehouse Contributing Member

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    Naw. A contending team is keeping him to contend, unless he can be traded for something better like Harden.
     
  2. Denovo

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    It’s also highly unlikely that they will walk and the Nets still remain a playoff team. Nobody is giving up assets for 34 year olds.

    they won’t bounce back immediately and for those down years we have their picks.

    the Nets weren’t even Kyrie and KDs first choice. It was the Knicks.

    It’s much more probable for them to be a lottery team after this run than a playoff team.
     
  3. astrosrule

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    Ya exactly, if he was worth all these picks he’d have been traded in a 3 way for someone like beal
     
  4. glimmertwins

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    What’s the point - Simmons isn’t a #1 guy so the trade wouldn’t have ever made sense without a few high draft picks included that Houston could take a shot in getting one. Otherwise, what was the point in collecting “Robins” and being capped out on the off chance you have a chance to sign a Batman?
     
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  5. HROZ

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    Really cutting off our nose to spite Morey imo.

    I'd have prefered Simmons Thybulle
     
  6. withmustard

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    I hope you're right, but to say market is irrelevant when that is the only reason they are stacked right now is short sighted. You felt your previous statements were backed by numerical "facts". Well, as long as NYC is largest city in America, players will continue to go there in search of endorsement deals and branding. The Knicks have blacklisted themselves because of Dolan, that is the only reason people aren't headed there as well. I can't believe I'm debating with someone whether a large market team will be attractive to players in the future. It's the sort of thing that is basically ruining the league right now. I assure you, Leonard wasn't considering the Twolves, Thunder and the Pelican. If we were talking about one of those teams, then sure, I think you would be right.
     
  7. Denovo

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    it not about whether they will be attract to free agents or not. I agree with that. I said market isn’t relevant to this argument.

    you’re saying they won’t have a drop off into the lottery after the KD Harden era because BKN is a big market. When the Knicks and LA have proven otherwise.
     
  8. Deckard

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    Both of those franchises have a second team in that city, so players are still choosing to go to that city, just not that team if they have a choice. While players were avoiding the Knicks and Lakers, Nets and Clippers got stacked.
     
  10. napalm06

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    I believe you are in the minority on that one
     
  11. Patience

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    Every trade scenario on CF over the last couple months mentions some dude Thybulle like he's a household name. Like Simmons AND Thybulle!! I'm like "what am I missing here? I must not be paying attention"

    I finally look this dude up, and he averages 2.6 ppg. WTF.
     
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  12. withmustard

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    So did Rodman and Ben Wallace. Thybulle's value is not in his PPG. That said, I think he's overrated as well. I think he would have been great with Harden though, he hits corner 3's and plays elite defense. Not much different than what Tucker gives us,just in different ways
     
  13. JayGoogle

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    So with the report that the Sixers FO were split on trading for Harden it sounds like entertaining more calls when you wanted this to get over with ASAP wasn't in the Rockets purview. Sixers were still dragging their feet on this and the Rockets were ready to make a deal especially with what recently happened and they were going to sit him out games.

    I can see why the Rockets just pulled the trigger on the trade, get the picks, get Oladipo, and just move forward.
     
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  14. Easy

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    This is what I thought too. Sixers have been reported that they had more than one voice internally in this deal. It is likely that waiting for them to make a decision would take too long (unless there is a very good chance that they would offer something far better than the Nets, which is not very likely).
     
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  15. tycoonchip

    tycoonchip Tilman has Aids!
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    F' you Morey! Seriously. Jerry West practically gifted Pau Gasol to the Lakers. Our parting gift was a giant F' U Houston and now I'm going to try and steal your best player? Seriously? In my industry we call it poaching employees. I respected Morey's decision to leave. It was his right and I get working for Tillman may suck. Attempting to poach Harden though is just bad juju.
     
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    simmons looks like a f'n joke in this game against MEM. and fatass morey stuck w/ that contract now lol
     
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  17. JayGoogle

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    Yeah and the longer this dragged the more it just hangs over the team every day. It seems like the Rockets were at least contemplating letting it play out longer as we heard they planned on just sitting Harden out if you remember so it really does feel like they just decided to take the best offer they had and move on.
     
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  18. delta69er

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    IMO - this was definitely a middle finger to Moraye by Ferntits. No matter what they say, business IS personal.
     
  19. DaBeard

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    Rockets dodged a bullet???
     
  20. Reeko

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    Ben Simmons is a joke when it comes to being a franchise player, but that’s what many were calling him on here.

    Rockets trying to build around him the next couple of years would’ve been a complete waste of time

    IB4 somebody says he’s a jumper away from being on Bron’s level...
     

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