We disagree. I don't expect everyone to agree with me. I explain my position, and I enjoy the back-and-forth, but I don't expect you to agree. I'm well aware he was trying to throw. But he had the ball down by his ass with his arm fully extended. No, a lot of quarterbacks do *not* do that. ...or throw it away. Of course, why were the Texans in a place of desperation?... Completely disagree (but you knew I would). Intent is completely irrelevant. No one *intends* to hand the game to the opponent on a silver platter.
I'm with you msn, he gave that game away. I honestly didn't realize there were people who were looking more kindly on Sage for this debacle.
Ok, I lied in my last post, I'm not done. Haha. Sage was very valuable in the last two years for us. We wouldn't have won 8 games either year without him...it sucks that he will only be remembered for that game, but that's what happens when you pull something like that. The Colts game was a choke job, plain and simple. What msn was implying is that the rest of the team had no effect on us losing that game, which is just silly.
I agree he did help us out quite a bit and played well. But that game kind of showed his "true colors." It was an extreme example, but he is an error prone QB.
yes but there is a definitive beginning: matt schaub being rushed to the hospital late saturday night/early sunday morning, unexpectedly thrusting sage into the starting line-up w/o taking a single snap with the first team all week. so there's no debating whether schaub would have played as well or better - he likely would have - he's a better QB. it's more on the fact we were fortunate enough to have a competent back-up who could step in at the 11th hour and help us build a 27-10 lead. not many teams have that luxury. rosenfels definitely blew it late; it's 95+% on him. that's why, even before that, i argued he was what he was; a career back-up QB. if he wins the job in minnesota, they'll come to the same conclusion soon enough. it's just now.... months later, the sting of that game has subsided and i think it's easier to appreciate what he DID do for us. orvlosky has some pretty big shoes to fill.
i think orlovsky will be ok - it's not like rosenfels was a pro bowler before he came here. he was a career back-up and a (more or less) failure as a starter on two QB-starved teams. it'd possible he simply got better as he got older/more experience. but it's much easier to build a case that better coaching on a better team were the bigger factors. so there's no reason to assume orlovsky can't enjoy a similiar "turnaround".
The deal on Orlovsky is that he was the QB for the worst-team-ever. So.... he simply can't do worse here. Can he?
I really hope Amobi does well. He seems like a pretty cool guy. when the search function was up last week I was just looking at old threads. there was a thread from 03 or 04 when he started college because he was 16.
Will someone please name "the projected" starting defensive lineup??? I'm very interested to see some opinions on it!
Dunta and Reeves at CB Ferguson and Wilson at S Diles (or adibi) , Demeco, Cushing at the LBs Mario, Amobi, T. Johnson, A Smith along the Dline
WLB and the 2nd corner is where I see the biggest battles taking place on defense. Bennett and Molden should challenge Reeves. I completely forgot about June.
Our D should improve. I like us at 10-6, or 11-5, depending on if the Patriots already clinched. We play them the last game of the year at home, fyi
I did not intend in the least to downplay this. I do not disagree. He was a great backup. I was responding to a very specific statement about one specific game, not about Rosenfels's entire tenure here (although his tenure *is* sadly marred by this one massive screw-up).
Can't wait for the season. The playoffs are an outside possibility, and I've never felt that way about this team before. Can't wait to see how the draft picks and FA signings fit into the big picture. Everything looks really, really good on paper. Go Texans!
