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Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by torque, Jan 15, 2005.

  1. blazer_ben

    blazer_ben Rookie

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    Exactly Champ. i think thats and Outstanding effort on a Player who is most noted as a SG. i remember in 97 i think it was, he finished 3rd in assists in the leauge.
     
  2. aries323

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    Its obvious that the acquisition of Wesley and Barry has opened up our offense, therefore allowing T-mac and Yao to have more room to operate. Wesley's perimeter defense seems to be working well with our scheme. Wesley and Barry brings a lot of enthusiam and energy to our team which we obviously lacked with JJ.

    I can recall watching Wesley playing for the Hornets when they were a good solid team a few years ago in the playoffs and he wasn't getting 35+ minutes on that team for no reason. If Silas likes him, I think he's a great contributer.

    Barry has heart!

    As soon as their shots start falling, I believe we will even get better offensively.
     
  3. reptilexcq

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    I TOLD YOU the guy was good. I was not the one that was disappointed about the trade.
     
  4. Coach AI

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    hotballa, I think your admitted resentment of the loss of Francis is affecting you more than you think.

    A little odd, don't you think, that you're increased bashing of TMac, negative threads/posts, aggravation at the praise of players' recent play on the court and general grumpiness (as it comes across in your posts) is happening right as the Rockets have started to play well and might be coming together?

    It's like you're agitated because there's something to be happy about.

    Come back to the light, man. ;)
     
  5. Fegwu

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    It is both. I was a trade more about intangible than tangibles.

    And we have not even reached 80% of efficiency yet. Watch out....

    PS. Motay looks like the odd man out now but his contract remains leprose.
     
  6. hotballa

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    man I am a little more positive aren't I :) I'm just befuddled as to why JVG couldn't give Francis the freedom to shoot as much as Mac is doing this season.

    I don't think I'm too negative on the David Wesley thing though. I just don't think he's that good.

    No more b****ing though, we're finally 3 games over, I can finally talk about the Rox being a 4th or 5th seed without people looking at me funny. I only hope that they don't let up, hopefully Mac can keep his intensity level up and make sure the rest of the team stay focused and not relax like they've done in the past.

    On further review, perhaps my general grumpiness comes from force of habit. The amount of times the Rox have looked like they turned the corner only to fall back into sub mediocrity in the past has sersiouly made me jaded. so I'm keeping my fingers crossed this time
     
  7. aries323

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    If we could get anything like Marshall for Motay, it could help us turn the corner. Marshall and Juwon are like polar opposites... Marshall can light it up from the 3 and rebound and block shots... sounds like a great compliment to Yao.

    Juwon on the other hand has been putting up great fg% of late, and we can give him the green light coming off the bench.

    I hope we can get Marshall, he is attainable and something that would definitely help us.
     
  8. torque

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    Its probably because McGrady is a LOT better than Francis.
    Just a thought...
     
  9. Clutch

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    I think there is a bit of a myth in here. The Rockets offense took off before the trades:

    http://www.clutchfans.net/news.cfm?NewsID=1178

    ... and has had two offensive clunkers the last two. Wesley also is shooting 33% in a Rockets uniform.
     
  10. torque

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    True, it did start somewhat before the trades, but you must agree that David Wesley has improved this team both offensively and defensively. Wesley has not contributed much in stats alone besides the Mavs game, but he has improved ball movement and defense tremendously.
     
  11. arno_ed

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    i wasn't the one that posted worst trade ever. But i di not like the trade, and i stil don't. I do not think it is wesley that makes the differance. look at the post from clutch.

    I also didn't like the trade because i think wesley is to old. and i want us to invest for over 3 years. then we should be titel contenders, this year is to early.
     
  12. magyuan

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    because Rockets did give francis the freedom to shoot in years......
     
  13. torque

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    Wesley is a month younger than Jim Jackson.
     
  14. arno_ed

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    i know, but if we traded JJ i wanted a younger player, maybe nto as good as JJ bur atleast alot younger. and we lost nachbar in the proses. and he is young
     
  15. rockbox

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    I think it had more to do with Tmac and Sura playing better. Tmac had that discussion with VanGundy, and after that he started jacking up the ball more which opened things up for his teammates.
     
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    I will own up that I did not like trading for another old player. JJ was a leader and consistent. I did not like the Ward aquisition, Spoon is old and broke down. See what these guys have left after the al star break or in March. Those old legs break down. i hope I am wrong. I do not care for Van gundy, but I am a Rockets fan first and foremost. I like the winning against good teams like SA and DAL -do not give D Wesley the credit for these wins - it is TMac and his role players like Sura and on occasion Howard....
     
  17. Deuce

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    I was one of those that didnt like the trade initially. I thought JJ was a good team leader, and at 6'6" could be a good defender of swingmen.

    But the trade(s) to bring in Wesley and Barry have been huge. I think the Lue for Barry trade is a no-brainer. We can clearly see all the positives in that one. No one argued that trade.

    With Wesley, we are getting some things I didnt expect. 1) Wesley's defense is much better than I anticipated. I thought at 6'1" he would not be able to match up with 2 guards. He can. He is strong and his lateral quickness is VERY good. He is pesky. 2) Wesley makes quick decisions. He either shoots or moves the ball. Just like Barry. and 3) Wesley doesnt turn the ball over and runs and finishes on fast breaks. I think all of those aspects are improvements over JJ. I certainly didnt see that happening but I am watching the games and I can see the results.

    The chemistry on this team is the best we have seen it all season. And that includes players "roles" being more defined like Howard as the starting PF and Taylor as a 6th man.
     
  18. tiger0330

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    I think Clutch's post puts this into perspective. The Rox rely on T-Mac and as T-Mac goes so go the Rox. Wesley has contributed by not turning the ball over, pushing the ball and his occasional good shooting games but not anymore so than the other Rox, it seems there has been a different hero every night. Mutombo with a great rebounding game last night, Sura with a career scoring night against the Nets and Juwan going off on the Mavs.

    If T-Mac can keep up this scoring, Yao comes to play more often, avoid injuries and we keep getting nightly all-star performances by our role players, then watch out NBA.
     
  19. SmeggySmeg

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    maybe because Francis walked the ball up the floor, and by then the defense was set, so Steve-O decided to save his juice for 24 second clock beater
     
  20. Will

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    Will somebody please post the productivity stats by opposing PGs against us before and after the trade, so we can check out this notion that Wesley improved our perimeter D?
     

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