[SinaRumor] Yao wants a 6-yr contract but Morey only gives 4

Yao is a not a good defender. He is an acceptable low post defender and presence due to his sheer size. Being big is not everything, but it is VERY important when deterring shots. People use to dunk on him because he was a p***y. He is a bit meaner now and does not let people bully him much down low.

 

Pass.

That will be a horrible contract by year 4 if we're lucky.

 

Yao is a very good defender in the post. Nobyd could consistently score on him one on one in the post except Shaq. Howard has under 50% FG against him head to head. Yao has trouble with pick'n rolls otherwise he'd be on all defensive teams every year.

Yao has the same size every year but his defensive impact has been bigger each season. So size is not everything here.

Yao is never a p***y. People used to dunk on Yao because he doesn't have strength to stop that. he was just weak in his upper body when he entered NBA. p*****s ran away from being dunked on.

 

If Yao read this board, he should know that it's time for him to leave.

His contract will depend on market value.

 

What about Yao go to NY? NY will offer him a big contract, and they will at least make the playoffs and screw up the rockets' picks.

 

Yao is not a very good defender. Yao is big and massive and therefore most people can no longer easily move him around. Shaq can beat him out one on one because he is more massive than Yao. You ever tried to move someone substantially heavier than you?

Of course he is improving every year. It is kind of hard not to improve as you gain more experience. He is still too clumsy and p***y though to be called a good defender. Has he gotten better though? Yes he has, a lot.

You don't have to run away from dunks. You are a p***y though if you don't contest the dunk. Yao still has a habit at times to try to take a charge instead of block the ball. He has gotten a lot better about it, but he is still relatively passive on D. When was the last time you saw Dream or Deke try to take a charge? There is a reason Deke yells at Yao to block. Yao is a p***y in that he's still too passive.

You can ask any coach. While you don't need a large player to anchor the D, having one in there really helps. If we had Hill or Jeffries earlier in the season at the middle, our D would not have looked nearly as bad despite Hayes being a better defender.

 

Yao alone will not take NY anywhere

 

Give a 30 year big man who is always injured 6 more years is crazy unless the dollar value is like 7 mil a year.

 

League insurance covers 80%. Could they pick up extra with insurance outside of the League?

In any case, in a worst case scenario, he's off the salary books after a year with the previous year's salary deducted retroactively for SC/LT purposes?

 

"good" or "bad" is not just by perspective, it should be measuered by impact Just like how good a player is should be measuered by impact instead of stats only. There are guys like Bradley, Manute Bol etc who has the same size but never the same defensive impact as Yao.

So taking charge is a definition of being p***y? Rules has been changed since Hakeem day, even DH takes a charge occasionally, although it's as rare as Yao. Even Shaq took a charge, is he a p***y? What is "passive" on D? Yao is smart enough to take fouls necessarily nowadays to stay on the court, unlike JVG years when he'd be in foul troube every 1st quarter. That's not p***y, that' smarter.

We had Hill and Jeffries at the end of the season with Hayes playing fewer minutes, but our defense got a lot worse, a lot worse. Again, size is not everything here.

Yao has improve his defense a lot, Gasol and Lopez's defense is worse than what Yao was in his early years, so they aren't gonna help Rockets defense by that much. Their team records kinda proved that.

 

Finally a realistic offer.

 

I was wondering when somebody was going to tell AggnRox to shut his pipe. Dude is delusional.

 

I think we will just have to agree to disagree on this one. I feel Yao is still too much of a p***y and gets by not because he is a big defender, but because he is so big and massive that he deters perimeter players from coming in. You are free to believe otherwise. At this point in Yao's career, I see no reason why he deserves as much money he is currently making. He is more of a $12 million player considering how injury prone and easily neutralized he is. I would much rather have Marc or Brook/Robin than Yao as they are still young and have a lot of potential. I like Yao's character and work ethics, but as a player, I cannot wait to see him go, especially if his new contract is anywhere close to his current salary.

 

You guys have to realize that Yao Ming is only potentially opting out because of the NBA Collective Bargain Agreement (CBA) that could make be really bad for the players and make their salaries a lot lower than they are now.

 

Fine. How much Yao is worth is a different story. But Gasol and Lopez don't have the same defensive impact as a healthy Yao at this moment. Bogut is better than those two.

 

You forget that Yao was healthy about a year ago and who knows how long if ever until he returns the form. Rather wait for Yao to become healthy only to get injured again, I rather have one of those now and usually all the time than Yao's defective body. Bogut also costs a lot more than those 2.

 

Your analogy is poor. Dream missed some games in a season and the team went on a streak because thorpe was and couldplay center and was a great pick and roll player. Yao goes down 1 yr and the team goes 22-10. Yao goes down again and the team goes like 25-7. He doesnt even play and with chuck hayes they win 42 games. Collectively,they have played over .600 minus yao. They had chuck freaking hayes at center and ariza/battier onthe wings for over half the seasonand won those games. Like i said before, if they have anyone with height who could rebound and block a few shots at center they wouldve won 50 games and made the playoffs.

 

Yao will probably give out 6 years from now.

 

How many times have you provided false facts and never owned up later on just to downgrade Yao's importance to Rockets team ? I can recall many.

This is a perfect example again.

"Rockets went 25-7 after Yao went down? They collectively played over .600 minus Yao?"

Where did you pull those craps off?

Let me tell you this: Yao didn't miss a game in his 1st 2 seasons. Since his 3rd year: Rockets are 195-122 for 61.5% with Yao, 94-81 for 53.7% without Yao. Oh, Rockets are better without Yao?

Not to mention Yao many of those played games were without a healthy Tmac. Whe Yao went down, Rocikets usually broungt back Tmac, brougyht on Deke to keep the team going. If you conisder games Yao + Tmac vs. Tmac only, the percentage difference is even bigger.

 

Man.... I need to smoke and drink what ever you are drinking...

Yao is an OK defender not a good defender...

Stoudamire, Boozer and any other quick big man..

Now you keep mentioning Lopez... Fact is every since Phoenix put Lopez in the starting position they have been on a roll... Now take for granted he's not as gifted as his brother he does what is asked of him.

His job is to play defense by alterting shots and get rebounds, again he does a good job by doing what he's asked to do.

Wilt Chamberline led the league for years in scoring, but Bill Russell did what he was asked to do and won the titles.

By the way, it would take more than learning how to play the p-n-r for Yao to be on the defensive team.

T_Man