1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

[SinaRumor] Yao wants a 6-yr contract but Morey only gives 4

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by mms, May 18, 2010.

  1. RedRedemption

    RedRedemption Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2009
    Messages:
    32,542
    Likes Received:
    7,752
    I love Yao... but he clearly isn't good for the team with getting season ending injuries every single season...
     
  2. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    10,532
    Exactly! Why would any team bank on a player for 6 years when he has been out every single year for the last 3-4 years, all for foot related injuries? A 4 year contract at $13 million is plenty generous for a player with his history.
     
  3. AggNRox

    AggNRox Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2003
    Messages:
    3,284
    Likes Received:
    59
    i guess your question is why rox wants yao to pick up his option. am i right?

    if yes, i let you know why. because yao has to make decision whether he picks up his option or not before July 1 when teams can start to talk to free agents. by 12:01AM on July 1, yao is either still under the contract or a free agent assuming no extension signed btw now and 12:01AM of July 1. if you want to test him during the next season, it's too late.

    is the answer intelligent enought for you to understand?
     
  4. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    10,532
    I believe his question is, why would we continue to pay him a huge amount of money without any indication that he will be good next year? A fair contract would be to sign him to a one year $12 million contract and make him earn his meal for the next season.
     
  5. AggNRox

    AggNRox Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2003
    Messages:
    3,284
    Likes Received:
    59

    because he didn't say. one more time, i don't pretend to know what secrets are in his mind. :grin:
     
  6. T_Man

    T_Man Member

    Joined:
    Jan 27, 2000
    Messages:
    6,866
    Likes Received:
    2,891
    And this is the main reason I have so many YOF's on my ignore list......

    chenjy9 had it correct.. But we differ from the fact that I would not pay him a dime until he proves that he can
    a) be productive
    b) fit in with the rest of the team
    c) stay healthy
     
  7. AggNRox

    AggNRox Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2003
    Messages:
    3,284
    Likes Received:
    59
    how do you know?

    you're not only pretend to know what secrets are in morey brain but also in other ppl mind. :eek:
     
  8. real_egal

    real_egal Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2003
    Messages:
    4,430
    Likes Received:
    247
    He's pissed, or you are?:)

    He stated his opinion over some rumors, just like every single poster in this thread, including yourself. You may not like his opinion, but if you are locking this thread because of him, you are giving his opinion too much weight:)

    I haven't seen him violating any Clutchfans rules. He's just saying lots of proposals seems to be "fair" to some people, not necessarily including Les or current Rockets players, but maybe beneficial to future players, but doesn't seem to be good to Yao. I don't see any poster here would take a pay cut at work, for the sake of the company to be able to hire another good employee. And yet, we DEMAND players to do so.

    OTOH, from my observation (it could be totally wrong), you are the most engaging moderator, when there is a thread involving Yao Ming.
     
  9. coachbadlee

    coachbadlee Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2010
    Messages:
    29,696
    Likes Received:
    10,167
    OK, let me clarify to everyone just how good this team is. Truthfully, as much as i love Yao, we really don't need him the way that things have been set up by Morey. Now Morey's plan may (or may not) have been to build around Yao, but it has actually worked out better than he had planned. We are now one (or more) star away from contending. Even if they don't get any top FA they could still contend with the MLE, the draft or through other 2nd tier FA's.
     
  10. AggNRox

    AggNRox Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2003
    Messages:
    3,284
    Likes Received:
    59
    have we finished intelligent discussion? :cool:


    go ahead to ignore me.

    like someone said team first, players second. i will add "fans, who cares". :eek:
     
  11. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    10,532
    Wow... you are just full of contradictory statements aren't you...

    Well look at that... I guess I am able to read minds and was able to discern what he was thinking, something that you obviously have great trouble grasping when it does not fit into your deluded world. I give up in trying to hold even a remotely intelligent conversation with you. You should learn from choujie. We had different opinions in regards to Yao and yet were able to debate civilly. I guess that is what intelligence can do for people. Oh well, on my ignore list you go and thankfully I don't have to deal with your delusions of Yao.
     
  12. Akim523

    Akim523 Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2008
    Messages:
    3,925
    Likes Received:
    505
    Small sample size, different schedule.
     
  13. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    10,532
    As fans, we just ask that players get paid what they deserve. If you perform less, you should get paid less. That is how it is for every other employment in the world, though performing badly usually ends with termination as opposed to getting paid less.
     
  14. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    10,532
    Most of us also don't give a damn about the players themselves, obviously seen by the dislike or double standards fans have when players leave.
     
  15. real_egal

    real_egal Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2003
    Messages:
    4,430
    Likes Received:
    247
    Any business decision is a gamble. I doubt you will get the chance to wait and see everything for sure. If I were Yao, I wouldn't wait that long. I believe Yao would not ask for Max deals, and he probably won't get it either, from Rockets or other teams. Some here believe if Yao walks, then let him walk, coz we don't need him. Others, including myself, don't think so. Les probably doesn't think so either.

    I believe Yao will stay and with a relatively reasonable deal. Talking about length without actual number or clauses is meaningless. But given the relationship between Yao and the organization, I believe they will reach a win-win. If some fans are not happy with it, they can't do anything about it.
     
  16. Akim523

    Akim523 Member

    Joined:
    May 17, 2008
    Messages:
    3,925
    Likes Received:
    505
    Because the question itself is r****ded. Of course they make money, they got good players they have a good record and they have a shot at the championship. But how much are they making? The money they spent to get their team up there?
    Hello?
    Any of their players got extra shoe deals from China? Any of their owners get the chance to invest in Chinese shoe makers that sells more shoes than NIKE?

    Come on, you make money by washing cars on the street, but you make much much more money with Yao on board.

    Thats why.
     
  17. AggNRox

    AggNRox Member

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2003
    Messages:
    3,284
    Likes Received:
    59
    of course, some fans won't be happen. yao is a pack of potato. why les wants to pay millions to get a bag of potatos
     
  18. Garner

    Garner Member

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2009
    Messages:
    4,700
    Likes Received:
    1,872
    1.8 Billion Chinese.
     
  19. chenjy9

    chenjy9 Numbers Don't Lie
    Supporting Member

    Joined:
    Nov 1, 2008
    Messages:
    13,534
    Likes Received:
    10,532
    I agree with you on that regard. I would rather have a one year evaluation contract, but obviously Yao would not agree to that nor should I expect him to. If Yao comes back at an acceptable contract, like I said, I will be happy to have him back. For anything close to his current contract, I would be content if the Rockets let him walk.
     
  20. real_egal

    real_egal Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2003
    Messages:
    4,430
    Likes Received:
    247
    I added that for you. General public demand executives on wallstreet take a deep pay cut. Do they care? Do their employees - those financial firms care? Signing contract is risky to both sides, as always. We shipped Dream away, which was good business for Rockets, bad for Raptors, and pretty good for Dream. But as some others pointed out, deals sent to Cato, was really bad for Rockets.

    There is no such thing as you earn after every match or year, unless you are really bad. Any decent players will demand some commitment - risk. Yao's injury history won't give him a max deal at this age, but his size and skills and his work ethic will get him a better deal than pay as you go.
     

Share This Page