- Please. Don't give me the programmed bull****. We see and hear everything. All you guys ever hear is CNN and their puppet network, Al Jazeera. Tell me, the leaders of your country... What percenteage of them are not Christian? Tell me, your president, how faithful is he to his religion? - Great response. Your argument was staggering . - I live in one, and I mentioned it in that paragraph. Thank YOU , try again. - Take a look at the facts buddy. The amount of violence in the U.S. is unbelievably high. I'm not sure, but I think it's the highest in the world. It's mighty nice of you to turn things around and make it sound like I'm blaming the people though. What I was saying (read carefully this time) is that the system you are using is obviously not working for you. I can't believe you are seriously try to refute how horrible the conditions are in a large part of America. You talk about us killing each other, but you freaking tried to wipe out the red Indians, and followed it up by enslaving Africans, and then trying to get rid of them later on. I'm sure you want the best for your children, but you're not getting it. You're threatning to pull out? Hahaha. That's the most hilarious thing ever. No one wanted you to attack in the first place. You attacked for YOU, you were doing YOURSELF the biggest favor of all. Your men and women are fighting all over the world - that's the problem!! They shouldn't be fighting, they should be at home!!! What the hell was Iraq doing to you? Who in Iraq ever did anything against the U.S.? Have you found a WMD? have you found Bin Laden? Have you found ANYTHING? What the hell did you do in Iraq? The country is shattered!! You are sucking the oil through a straw and will leave when you're full, that's it! I have great respect for those who have the courage and go fight, but I think it's a shame that the leaders are doing it for money more than anything else. Ungrateful? What the hell do I have to be grateful for from you? I'll give it back. You try hard? That's great. What good does it do running into a wall repeatedly head-first? You're trying hard, but what will you achieve? Other than exercising the freedom to do whatever the **** you want, you gain nothing from it.
When my Creator asks me to be left-handed, I won't hesitate a bit and be glad to do it. No harm is done. When my Creator asks me to walk and bark a dog, I'll do so. No harm is done, may be just the loss of my dignity. When my Creator asks me to kill gay people SIMPILY because they are gay, then I do question, or at least wonder why, unless this is also what I always believe should have been done, what I have always be taught, or what has always be preached in the Holy Book. I accept Him as my savior because I accept His teachings. I accept His teachings because He preaches love and compassion, not hatred. I follow His words without hesitation because His acts always mean forgiveness and mercy, and He has always taught me so. When my Creator asks me to kill gay people SIMPILY because they are gay, then I do question, or at least wonder why .....
I think that one of the main reasons Islam does not approve of Homosexuals is because it just isnt natural. People are given the command to kill gays because they are going against gods will, which is to reproduce, and obviously that is impossible when you are homosexual. I am not studied or in a position to give a correct reply, but thats what I get from what I have been told.
Look, from my perspective, you can put a million qualifiers to it, but my opinion is that marrying a 9-year-old kid (and thereby imposing an obligation on the kid the extent of which the kid cannot possibly understand and therefore not effectively agree to) is sick. The "but I would ask the kid" qualifier is just ridiculous, for the above mentioned reason. Next, keeping the kid in the house for a few years is also not a valid "excuse". What if the kid grows up and then doesn't want to be with the guy you married her to when she was 9? Does the kid have a chance to dissolve the marriage? No, right? So that excuse doesn't work. But the sickest part of it is the grown man actually wanting to be married to the 9-year old - someone like that might have been the "most respected man in the country" up to that point, but after that, that guy is just someone who wants to molest a child. I am saying all that from today's perspective and from the perspective of the civilized western world. There might be cultural differences and there might have been different times in history, the combination of which might make things look different, but again, I think it is sick if a 9-year old kid is forced to marry an adult (and it is FORCED because, as I said, it lacks the capacity to validly assent to the marriage).
Again, How the HADES do you guys know that Homosexuals are not natural? Until God comes down and says that they are, then you are making a massive leap, and as Sane says...what if you have it wrong? Who are we to judge? I know the Christian faith says "thou shall not judge" or "Judge not lest ye be judged". I am fairly certain the Muslim faith has something similar as all religions are just a plagarized version of each other. The more I learn about Islam and the robotic folks that follow it the less hope I have for the world, it is just wacked. As for Sane's point about me taking a chance by not believing in something, let me point out again, that I DO believe in God, just not in man's interpetation of it. I do not presume to think that we can define the creator, as religions claim to do. I believe we are all wrong, and the truth will be revealed when we die....and I do not believe that God cares one iota for religion, just that you have lived a good and morale life. DD
so God hates the homos but he spares Lot who offers to let the "gays" rape his own daughters and then knocks both of them up later on.
My God!! You sure seem to be ignorant. Do you really believe that Islam endorses human rights violations? Not to mention the fact that you call Muhammad a warlord/pedophile. That's just obstinence. You are forming a judgment on Islam based on a fringe minority and interpreting scripture without considering the historical and situational context. If that is your standard, then Christianity is just as repulsive as Islam. I'll list some Bible scriptures on a few issues. Do me a favor and clarify them for me. Show me, on the basis of scripture, how Christianity is far civilized and superior to Islam or any other faith. Human Rights: Moses is commanded by God to exterminate the Canaanites, the Amorites and the people of Bashan "and show no mercy" - Deuteronomy 7: 1-2 God commands Moses to slaughter 24,000 people and hang their heads in the sun. - Numbers 25 Esther gets permission for the Jews to slaughter all their enemies, including women and children, which they do, then celebrate it and institute the feast of Purim to remember it - Esther 8:11, Esther 9:1-19 "Slay utterly old and young, both maids and little children," says God - Ezekiel 9:6 Incest and Concubinage: Abraham marries his half-sister - Genesis 20:12 Lot's daughters have sex with him so that he will have descendants - Genesis 19:30-38 Gideon has 70 sons "by many wives" - Judges 8:30 Boaz pays Ruth in barley for spending the night with him - Ruth 3:15 Inferiority of Women: A mother is unclean for twice as long after the birth of a daughter as after a son - Leviticus 12 A wife is listed among her husbands property, after the house - Exodus 20:17 No woman should have authority over a man - 1 Timothy 2:12 A divorced woman is as unclean as a w**** and unsuited as the wife of a priest - Ezekiel 44:22 Religious Intolerance: Kill anyone who teaches you another religion, even a member of your family - Deuteronomy 13:1-11, 18:20 Elijah kills 450 priests of Baal with his own hand - 1 Kings 18:40 Places of false worship should be destroyed -Deuteronomy 12: 1-3 I can list a lot more if you are so interested. The only reason I listed all of this is to refute your claim. I have no intention of offending anyone. As you can see, verses and scriptures exist in ALL faiths that can be interpreted as hateful and violent. Please do not isolate Islam as being the ONLY faith that has just fiery rhetoric. As you can see, such a claim is simply and blatantly false. Let's respect each other's faiths. If you do not like Islam or Muslims, that is your right. But please do not have different standards for different faiths. That is just disingenous.
Aggie, I don't like any religion, I think they are all created by man to influence and control the ignorant masses. Written by man when lawlessness abounded....edited by man to suite whomever was in power at the time of the editing (king James..cough cough). Not gonna get an argument out of me supporting Christianity. DD
Goes to show you the Bible is kinda old...nowadays, the CAR would have to be in there somewhere...ts ts...get your priorities straight, people!
typical DD repsonse after he gets TOLD, you start dissing one religion, and when someone shows you that it also happens in other religions, you start with thtat BS about religion being written by man for the masses, blah blah blah...
THats the only difference between islam and christianity, Islam stayed true to its form, and Christianity has changed over time...
DaDakota has consistently expressed this belief for a very longtime in various threads, i.e., even when he wasn't 'TOLD'. Still comfortable questioning his sincerity?
That doesn't strike you as a very un-God-like interpretation? Cannot God kill whoever he wants to? That's just offensive.
And that's why people fear Islam. They see Islam as intrinsically opposed to the very notion of free will itself. Under Islam’s rigid moral code, human beings do not possess the slightest area in their lives where their behavior is not subject to a rigid rule. Islam takes control of every ingredient of its believer’s life - to the point where the believer becomes little more than an automaton who does not, and must not, nurture any kind of independent or critical thinking of his own.
Exactly, all religions have plagarized themselves and have commonalities in their teachings. Heck you can even find some commonalities with the Greek mythos in all religions. However Islam has not adopted, and this is a problem. Religion should be like our constitution, able to be amended with the times. DD
