The only Blue Collar guy worth a big contract and being the 3rd star on our team is Elton Brand. All other blue collar guys are available through the MLE and the veteran minimum. Ming PJ Brown Odom Francis McInnis Isn't that the best of both worlds? We get our blue collar guys in McInnis, Brown, and Ming. We get our fireworks in Francis and Odom. We have an inside game, an outside game, brilliant passing game. I'm really feeling that team. McInnis can be had for a bag of Dorritos at this point. Odom will take some effort, but I think we have the personnel to do it. If we can top it off by not re-signing Posey, and keeping Rice or dumping a big contract, PJ Brown is a possibility at 4.7M. He won't ask for more. He won't get any more.
I think all of this trade talk for Odom, Brand is pointless. The Rockets only have 3 players that we can get something good in return for: Ming, Francis and Rice (b/c of his contract). For all of the others like Mobley and Griffen, don't expect anyone to trade us Brand or Odom for Cat and Griff. Think about it, if you were the Clippers, would you trade Brand and/or Odom for Cat and/or Eddie? I didn't think so. The Clippers can get much better offers from other teams. If we don't want Cat and Griff and can see their shortcomings, why would other teams want them? Its like Antoine Walker, he might seem to have a trade value but nobody really wants someone who can do nothing but jack 3's all day long. Sound familiar?
But BubbaMac, with your attitude, only superstars would get dealt for each other when IN FACT superstars are RARELY dealt for each other these days.
Cuttino Mobley, Eddie Griffin, Terence Morris, and Kelvin Cato for Elton Brand and Quentin Richardson! Woohoo!
I have to disagree. EG is a 20 year old shot blocker and Cat can play both ends of the court. Walker is an undersized PF that can't jump. Totally different!
These are the guys that we could've had if we would've traded Mobley or Griffin in the past: Sonics: they offered Rashard for Griff Clips: offered Odom for Mobley Hawks: offered SAR/ J-Terry for Griff so Cat and ED have trade value we can get a good player that fits our system this offseason
For what its worth I have had the great pleasure to do some travelling with the Clippers and have spoken before with the Clippers management and training staff as well as the players themselves. Out of all the players Odom, Brand and Pia Pia were the consensus favorites as far as best "human beings" on the team. To a man the organization stated that Odom was a good kid and that he was something special. This has nothing to do with him on the Rockets but just to clear up any misconceptions that Odom is a bad seed...
If EG and Cat are so great, then why are we trying to get rid of them? Actually, I take that back, they might be good players but just not for the Rockets. I bet the if the Rockets trade EG, he is almost GUARANTEED to be the NBA's most imrpoved player next year. IF the Rockets trade Cat, all of a sudden he won't be making anymore dumb decisions on the court. If the Rockets get Brand, Odom or whoever, most likely, these players will just become all r****ded and turn into iso, iso guys. This isn't the topic of the original thread, but does it really matter who the Rockets bring in as long as Rudy is the coach?
my thought is about kandi man I wonder if he can play the four The Reason i ask is he would be cheeper to get then Brand and would be ideal to bring back the twin tower consept
Rice, Griffin, Cato, Nachbar, and a #1 for Odom and Brand. Clips win the lottery, draft Lebron. They've got Miller, Lebron, Nachbar, Cato, and Eddie. Trade Rice for more picks and trash. Rockets have Stevie Cat Odom Yao Brand with MoT on the bench for instant offense. Rockets sign some shooter and a backup Center, whoever is left that is cheap. Why wouldn't the Clips do something like this if they win the lottery? If they don't win the lottery, they will probably draft T.J. and try to move Miller instead of Odom. So, Brand for Cato and Eddie and a future #1. Or Brand for Cato and Rice, whoever. Come on Rockets, do da deal, make it happen.
I wish. But I thought teams could only have one free agent involved in a sign and trade...not sure. But anyways....Rice, Griffin, Cato, Nachbar, and a #1...I would rather add Mobley and remove Nachbar. They want more than that for Elton Brand and Lamar Odom. I still don't know...Lamar doesn't look that bright or aware of his surroundings. I do know he can shoot if he has to. He will only get better...same with Elton Brand. I don't think they would want all of our crap. I wish!
Hey guys, Rice's trade value is virtually nill other than the fact that his contract ends after next season. Unless someone is dumping cap they won't want him. His ability to defend is gone, he gets hurt a lot and shot isn't what it was. The only way you get draft picks is if we take on a truly terrible contract in return. We've got plenty of those already.
Hey, thanks for posting! You haven't been around as much as you used to. (or I'm suffering brain-freeze... that's probably it) And thanks for the info. Any thoughts on how healthy Lamar is?
Odom is a restricted free agent so he can't sign for the expection. With his fitness problems and mental fragility I would pass up on him even though he is talented.
DON"T UNDERESTIMATE RICE'S TRADE VALUE. Next to Yao and Francis, he has the highest trade value on this team. Just look at the Nuggets. Kiki traded talent for contracts. And guess what? The Nuggets have basically saved themselves two years of rebuilding! Scarface- There is a big difference between being a good guy and being a good franchise player. I don't doubt his popularity. I doubt his game. I don't think he is the final piece to the Rockets puzzle. If you want to make a movie or look good, then trade for Odom; if you want to win a championship, then bring in someone to protect our stars. By the way, I have the wedding pictures. They're hilarious.
Sane almost has one of my favorite trade lineups : Ming P.J. Brown Odom Francis Alvin Williams I'd prefer a A. Williams to McInnis. But McInnis is really cheap. That has some appeal. What I like is everyone has a role and everyone plays their role. Role Role Role. Not Roll Roll Roll - btw. No 3rd tier player is tempted to dribble out the shot clock or jack 1-3. These guys are going to support Ming/Francis perfectly. Cat, Eggie, Taylor, etc ask Ming/Francis (can we call them M/F?) to support them. That sucks. Put in players who know M/F is the show.
